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Pope Francis condemned the "very strong, organised, reactionary attitude" in the US church and said Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the US Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the US Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage.

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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

So I think that by-and-large, the Evangelicals have had a crisis of faith and are seeking the US Catholic Church as a bastion of stability. And the US Catholic Church has been happy to accept Evangelicals into our flock, because we're all Christian here and spreading our religion is what we do.

This has become somewhat of a devil's deal however, as the Evangelicals have pushed the Church extremely rightward politically. Historically, the Catholic Church has been very pro-Latino, because the Hispanic community / immigrants are overwhelmingly Catholic (not just "Christian", but proper Catholics born and raised). But in the past 10 years or so I'm seeing more and more former-Evangelicals bring their politics into the Catholic tradition.

Nominally, this crap shouldn't matter to the issues of Church. But it does. Politics infects all wakes of life one way or the other.


In any case, I think its a good thing that (former) Evangelicals have migrated over to the Catholic church in such large numbers that this problem is occurring. And I'm not necessarily saying that we need to 'indoctrinate' our (former) Evangelicals to the policies or politics of the Catholics... but... maybe a little bit? I dunno. But a lot of these far-right rhetoric / fire and brimstone style religion (with anti-immigration / anti-Hispanic slants) is distinctly non-Catholic and heretical IMO.

Case in point: we Catholics finally have a 2nd president of our Faith: Joe Biden. And yet, the Catholic community was THIS close to excommunicating him. Rather than celebrate our achievement to get our 2nd president into the office, he is seen as a heretic to (half) of the US Catholic Community.

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[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How long before the pope accidentally falls out of a window and a new American pope is called?

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago

If bigotry is not allowed why do we get news from the ceo of bigots reaching top posts?

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] MenacingPerson@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How did sevitavresnoc SU-s replace faith with ideology? I've never even heard of that group before

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Catholic Church has actively ran the longest largest worldwide Pedophile ring in human history. For the past 1800 years the Catholic Church recruited, supported, obfuscated, defended, and excused pedophilia, which continues to this day. The fact the Catholic Church still allowed to operate, in any way shape or form, with youth of any kind, in any country, anywhere, means we've all purposefully lost the thread.

Beside the Catholic Church being outwardly obviously criminal, and only an extension of the Roman Senate two thousand years on, it's only shown how very little adults care about the systematic raping of children. Like, at all.

Fuck The Catholic Church. Fuck The Pope.

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