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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That being said, even the illusion that corporations support queer people increases the overall societal pressure to support it. It’s a sign that we won the culture war, definitively.

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's a sign that corporations think you're more likely to give them money.

[–] DoYouNot@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

AB InBev was a great example of this.. They tried some token transgensder appreciation marketing and faced backlash, then reversed it and faced more backlash. Trying for both but got neither in the end.

Or in other words: "One in the hand is worth two in the Busch".

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I posit the reverse: that some corporations choose to display tokenistic commodified support because overall social pressure exists to show support of some kind.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It’s both, escalating in a positive feedback loop. That’s how culture wars are won.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does anyone, literally any sane person, actually believe that corporate America selling rainbows is tangible support? That’s putting the cart before the horse. Queer folk are largely socially accepted->low risk->support.

To be clear, I hope they continue marketing rainbows but I don’t pretend that it’s anything other than convenient money. Capitalism commodifies and co-opts, it doesn’t support. See: black mirror episode 2

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've certainly met people who claim Capitalism is the key for LGBT acceptance and less overt racism, and therefore supports those people.

I am far more with you on your point of view. Capitalism only supports making more money.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There could be more than one reason maybe?

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but support from Capitalism isn't one of them.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be more precise, democratic capitalism. Just capitalism is economic system, has nothing to do with social issues.

And I will argue yes, democratic capitalism has something to do, because it is in these countries LGPT has the most rights.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You're claiming that economic systems have no impact on social issues?

And you're sure that a position of global dominance due to sitting atop the global neo-colonial system has nothing to do with it?

Does India count as a Capitalist Democracy for this? What about Malaysia, or Indonesia, or Nigeria, or Kenya?

Edit: Poland, Romania, Italy?