AdulasMoonblade

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We're about 20% of the way through the season now with most teams having played ~16 games. Do you have any hot takes so far on the season?

 

Obviously Jamal Murray has been out for that stretch but this is still not what you wanna see from the reigning champs. Should the Nuggets be concerned about their early season play?

 

Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green and Evan Mobley. All have had their good and bad moments during their time in the league, and you could argue they have all been a little underwhelming as top 3 picks particularly Cade and Green.

Do you think all of them will get max extensions this summer?

 

He's averaging 20.5/5.2/3.7 on 56% TS this season. Solid numbers but not what we have come to expect from him. Instead of playing like the superstar he once was, he's playing like a glorified Khris Middleton.

He's 32 which is right around the point where a lot of stars fall off anyway. Did his latest injury in the playoffs end his prime?

 
108 - 119
Box Scores: NBA & Yahoo
 
GAME SUMMARY
Location: United Center(19088)
Officials: Zach Zarba, Lauren Holtkamp and JD Ralls
Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Total
Detroit Pistons 31 19 31 27 108
Chicago Bulls 22 33 29 35 119
 
TEAM STATS
Team PTS FG FG% 3P 3P% FT FT% OREB TREB AST PF STL TO BLK
Detroit Pistons 108 38-88 43.2% 11-32 34.4% 21-26 80.8% 16 61 26 19 4 16 6
Chicago Bulls 119 44-91 48.4% 11-30 36.7% 20-25 80% 11 46 21 21 12 6 6
 
PLAYER STATS
Detroit Pistons MIN PTS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A ORB DRB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/-
Ausar Thompson^SF 32:20 9 2-9 0-1 5-7 6 10 16 2 0 1 3 1 -19
Isaiah Stewart^PF 31:22 17 6-13 3-5 2-4 5 5 10 2 0 0 3 3 -10
Marvin Bagley III^C 23:05 14 6-12 0-1 2-2 3 3 6 1 0 1 3 1 -8
Cade Cunningham^SG 38:08 10 4-15 0-5 2-2 0 3 3 5 0 2 1 4 -24
Killian Hayes^PG 24:51 7 3-8 1-3 0-0 0 3 3 3 0 0 0 1 -12
Marcus Sasser 19:45 5 2-6 1-3 0-0 0 3 3 6 1 0 2 1 +1
James Wiseman 14:22 6 3-6 0-1 0-0 1 1 2 0 1 2 2 3 +5
Alec Burks 20:39 16 3-7 2-6 8-9 1 2 3 4 0 0 0 2 +6
Jaden Ivey 11:25 6 2-4 0-2 2-2 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 1 +9
Kevin Knox II 24:02 18 7-8 4-5 0-0 0 3 3 1 1 0 1 2 -3
Jalen Duren 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Joe Harris 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Stanley Umude 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Bojan Bogdanovic 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Malcolm Cazalon 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Isaiah Livers 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Monte Morris 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Jared Rhoden 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Chicago Bulls MIN PTS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A ORB DRB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/-
DeMar DeRozan^SF 36:53 29 11-19 2-3 5-5 1 0 1 1 0 4 0 1 +12
Torrey Craig^PF 30:50 3 1-6 1-4 0-0 3 7 10 1 1 0 0 3 +12
Nikola Vucevic^C 33:11 21 8-17 3-7 2-2 2 10 12 4 2 1 1 2 +6
Zach LaVine^SG 34:17 19 6-14 1-6 6-6 0 3 3 2 1 0 0 1 +1
Coby White^PG 31:51 16 6-14 3-6 1-2 0 0 0 7 1 0 1 6 +4
Patrick Williams 19:10 4 0-2 0-1 4-6 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 -4
Ayo Dosunmu 26:38 13 6-7 0-1 1-2 0 1 1 3 4 0 0 3 +19
Andre Drummond 14:49 11 5-8 0-0 1-2 5 8 13 1 2 0 1 2 +5
Jevon Carter 12:20 3 1-4 1-2 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 2 0
Julian Phillips 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Terry Taylor 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Lonzo Ball 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Onuralp Bitim 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Alex Caruso 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Justin Lewis 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Adama Sanogo 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dalen Terry 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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There is a lot of mid in the East right now. Everyone from 4-12ish seems on the same level. There are some promising young teams like the Pacers and Magic but its hard to know if they're for real. There's underperforming veteran teams like the Heat and Bulls, and just decent playoff teams like the Hawks and Knicks

 
97 - 112
Box Scores: NBA & Yahoo
 
GAME SUMMARY
Location: Amway Center(19354)
Officials: JB DeRosa, Ed Malloy and Suyash Mehta
Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Total
Milwaukee Bucks 25 24 23 25 97
Orlando Magic 29 36 23 24 112
 
TEAM STATS
Team PTS FG FG% 3P 3P% FT FT% OREB TREB AST PF STL TO BLK
Milwaukee Bucks 97 38-77 49.4% 9-29 31% 12-25 48% 5 49 25 24 9 19 6
Orlando Magic 112 36-84 42.9% 10-26 38.5% 30-35 85.7% 15 56 24 17 9 13 1
 
PLAYER STATS
Milwaukee Bucks MIN PTS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A ORB DRB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/-
Khris Middleton^SF 19:30 10 4-8 2-4 0-0 0 0 0 7 0 1 1 1 -3
Giannis Antetokounmpo^PF 36:39 35 15-22 0-1 5-12 2 8 10 7 4 2 6 4 -11
Brook Lopez^C 21:14 9 3-7 2-5 1-2 0 3 3 1 1 2 1 1 -7
Malik Beasley^SG 20:13 0 0-4 0-3 0-0 0 2 2 1 0 0 1 3 -6
Cameron Payne^PG 25:34 14 6-8 2-3 0-0 0 0 0 2 2 0 2 3 -8
Jae Crowder 16:55 1 0-1 0-1 1-2 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 -13
Bobby Portis 27:37 13 4-11 2-5 3-4 1 6 7 1 2 0 2 4 -6
MarJon Beauchamp 19:40 5 2-7 0-2 1-3 1 3 4 0 0 0 3 2 -19
Pat Connaughton 15:37 3 1-3 0-1 1-2 0 3 3 1 0 0 0 2 -11
Andre Jackson Jr. 13:58 4 2-3 0-1 0-0 1 2 3 0 0 0 2 2 +2
AJ Green 09:29 3 1-3 1-3 0-0 0 2 2 3 0 0 0 0 +5
Thanasis Antetokounmpo 09:41 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 1 1 2 +6
Chris Livingston 03:53 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -4
Robin Lopez 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Lindell Wigginton 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Marques Bolden 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Damian Lillard 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TyTy Washington Jr. 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Orlando Magic MIN PTS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A ORB DRB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/-
Franz Wagner^SF 37:56 24 8-16 2-6 6-7 0 6 6 3 1 0 3 2 +3
Paolo Banchero^PF 38:16 26 10-22 2-5 4-5 3 9 12 5 1 0 3 2 +10
Goga Bitadze^C 21:07 2 1-5 0-0 0-0 5 4 9 2 2 0 1 2 +4
Jalen Suggs^SG 38:23 20 5-11 2-4 8-10 0 2 2 2 1 0 1 0 +10
Anthony Black^PG 28:09 2 1-3 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 3 0 0 1 2 +6
Joe Ingles 23:29 5 1-5 1-4 2-2 1 2 3 5 0 0 0 1 +8
Jonathan Isaac 17:19 10 3-10 2-4 2-2 3 2 5 0 2 1 0 4 +9
Cole Anthony 14:03 4 0-3 0-1 4-4 0 2 2 3 1 0 3 2 +14
Moritz Wagner 21:18 19 7-9 1-1 4-5 3 1 4 1 1 0 1 2 +11
Markelle Fultz 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Caleb Houstan 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Jett Howard 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Chuma Okeke 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Wendell Carter Jr. 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Gary Harris 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Kevon Harris 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Trevelin Queen 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Admiral Schofield 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401584743

Cade looks like his 3pt shot is back now, as he is shooting above 40% from 3 on the season. But his finishing at the rim has been really bad. He missed a clutch open layup in the 4th quarter of tonights loss to the Blazers

 

Definitely better

  • Steph

  • Luka

  • Dame

  • SGA

  • Ja Morant

  • Jamal Murray

  • De'Aaron Fox

Possible better

  • Tyrese Haliburton

  • Trae Young

  • Jalen Brunson

  • Darius Garland

  • Lamelo Ball

  • Kyrie Irving


So he ranks anywhere between 8th and 14th. Is that fair to say?

 

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401584707

Trae is now 8/35 from the field on the season and the Hawks are 0-2

 

Mobley and Suggs are elite defenders and look like perennial All Defense guys

Barnes won ROTY and is a solid "Jack of all trades, master of none" type guy who is at least a net positive on the floor

Cade has been dealing with a bunch of injuries but has shown flashes of greatness when healthy

And then there's Green. I don't think there is anything he does particularly well. Inefficient scorer, bad defender, bad playmaker, low IQ on both ends. Is he the worst of the 2021 guys?

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