NBA - Main

The me what has really slipped is his defense. He is still big, has long arms and giant hands, but for some reason he doesnt feel like the claw anymore.

He’s being James Hardened

He’s sharing the “load” with Harden, Paul George and Westbrook of course his numbers are going to be lower.

As a top 5 guy? Probably.

As a top 10 guy no.

I don’t think you can call someone washed that got destroyed by injuries

Hard to say. He's spent a big portion of his career "resting". Had some great playoff runs so if we're comparing these stats to those moments of greatness, then maybe.

He just came from a knee injury so

I thought so for a little bit last year when he came back then he went berserk for the 2 healthy games he had in the playoffs.

I don’t think Kawhi will be washed for a few more years, his body just keeps failing him.

32, tons of injuries... I guess he's still good but will never be old Kawhi. Can show some glimpses, though. For some stretches people are gonna say old Kawhi is back, but it is not gonna be consistent, like for a season or a chip run.

Also the lack of intensity and continuous high level play will make him decrease a lil bit. It's not that he forgot, but he will be less practiced.

y’all do this every season i swear

he’s a notoriously slow starter and then come December all the way through the playoffs when he’s averaging 30/8/4 on 68% true shooting everyone is suddenly shocked

Given the nature of his injury, he's probably nearly there. Maybe a few old flashes left but I can't see him going off again like he did a few years ago for us.

Not all the way, but it's bound to happen at some point soon

Not according to all the rankings, for some reason, he is still ranked top 10 over a bunch of other stars who have actually played regularly over the last few years. He is riding on reputation.

I think his style of play requires a lot of effort and exertion and in the regular season he won’t have it anymore. But in the layoffs I think he can still be dominant. Kind of like Jimmy butler

What's your definition of washed.

Id say he is still good but not carry team alone kind of good

He’s a not a regular season hooper, hard to say

Over the hill and past his prime? Yes. But washed should only be reserved for players that are complete buns and shells of themselves.

Like Derrick Rose is washed but Kawhi is still a starting caliber player.

decline, washed is when they are putting 10/5/2 in 20+ mins.

He could be Clyde Drexler to Hakeem. I think.

I mean inserting someone like Harden who needs the ball all the time to either play make or score is kind of going to cause numbers to dip

Compared to what he used to be? Absolutely, I said this before last year and got heat for it. Injuries don't get better with age.

No

He just doesn't give a fuck.

people asked this exact same question when he started playing last year too. had like 10-20 games where he looked bad, then it was like a switch flipped and he shot high volume 50/50/80 splits for the rest of the year

he looks significantly skinnier. he’s probably having to readjust to getting to his spots without as much muscle to help bully his way there.

kawhi loves playing basketball. he’s obsessed with it like all the greats. that skill is not gonna go away

Shot hasn’t fell as much and the new “system” isn’t helping

I think he’s taken a step back to let PG and the other guys carry a bigger load cause he’s been a carry job for the last 4 years

He could certainly be “the guy” but it’s not the playoffs so he probably doesn’t care.

I would wait a few months before saying anything more definitively in either direction. If he came out of the gates hot, all people would say is that he'll be injured the next game, and it'll mean nothing. He could have a hyper efficent game tonight, and this post will look ridiculous.

Ten games in just isn't a large enough sample size to determine anything, frankly. I know people love being reactionary and in the moment, but the NBA season is a journey, not a sprint.

Too soon to say IMO. He might be holding back a bit until he figures out how things can best work with Har_en. Or he might be done. We should know soon enough.

not washed but kawhi doesn't care. he got his hardware and is having fun. he wanted to play back home with no pressure. if he wanted to win, he would have chosen the lakers or stayed with the raptors.

He isn’t washed but I’ll say he definitely ain’t the same player

what surprised me was that he has no lift whatsoever, like legs are done. He's still a great player but the physical aspect of his game looks like is taking a fairly sharp decline.

He'll be rejuvenated when the Warriors trade for him before the deadline

Kawhi bossed out after load managing half of last season into a non-contact injury after 1 full playoff game. After that Toronto championship, he's chillin like lil b TYBG wearing the same vans for 10 years now, he stopped giving a fuck, thank you based whi, he gave us enough greatness for 5 entire careers and then was like fuck it I'm rich bitch

well since being a clipper his game has mainly been: get him the ball in the post and he will hit those midrange jumpers. they are doing less and less that. i think he could still put up better numbers than last year with that playing style.

He's Kawhi-et quiting :)

(I already commented on this thread, but this deserved its own, oh my god posted on a thread twice... twice as nice... get caught up in my blade, might get diced)

Washed is a stretch. He’s still really good.

If he wasn’t checked out before, playing with Harden will definitely check him out

10 game sample size with those stats and he’s washed? No. Over the hill, I think so, not washed quite yet.

Let’s wait for the playoffs before deciding for it

He shouldn’t have left San Antonio…

Raptors kawhi was his peak..if he didn't win that ring we would be saying he was a spurs system player.. dumb decision going to LA coulda easily repeated in the bubble with raptors who won 53 games that bubble year.. won 58 wins the chip year 17-2 without him lol and before he came won 59 with demar derozan.. kawhi should thank canada he been a rip off for the clippers lol

Is kawhi washed? He has 3 other stars with him and theres one ball. He is far from washed

Kinda

Kawhi is a God, against the Lakers.

Injuries

I better not hear Kawhi Leonard compared to LeBron again, or I'm gonna kill somebody

Kawhi's body was done after the 2019 championship. He went to LA to retire.