EsotericPotato

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KAT is currently averaging 22.2 on 50.3-41.8-91.1 shooting splits, while Naz is averaging 12.6ppg on 51.4-40-90.6 shooting splits.

This is not a post crowning either of them as the newest members of the 50-40-90 club; it's really early in the season and is kind of an arbitrary mark to begin with. Just a few days ago, Halli was also at 50-40-90. There's no guarantee that either Naz or KAT stay at 50-40-90 (in fact, I would be shocked if they did). But it's pretty remarkable that not only are the only two players currently averaging 50-40-90 shooting splits both centers, but they both play for the same team.

 

NAW was incredible for the Timberwolves tonight, he was absolutely everywhere on both ends of the court.

Going back to the spring, NAW has been playing some really good basketball. He filled in admirably for Jaden McDaniels in the post-season last season, played excellent basketball for Canada over the summer, and has been playing well for the Timberwolves this season. His role has been relatively limited because of the team's depth, but when he's been in, he's just constantly been making plays, even with his shot not falling.

Hard to believe that he was basically a throw-in in the D'Angelo Russell trade last season.

 

The Vikings defense has been incredible the last two weeks. Unfortunately the offense has been an absolute disaster, and a combination of turnovers, poor execution, and awful coaching have completely stifled any ability to capitalize on the defense.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Do I as a Vikings fan have a right to be mad if Mullens isn’t under center after the commercial break or am I just being a prisoner of the moment right now.

Dobbs has shown that not only can he not make plays, but his accuracy, velocity, and decisionmaking are playing a colossal role in this game right now.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago

The “let’s see it against prime Drose” thing is missing the point of why this is exciting entirely.

We know he can guard the elite ball handlers in the league in high leverage moments, like he’s got all-defensive caliber tape against a ton of stars in the league. Effort/consistency have always been the big question for him on defense. So to see him focused on defense like this in a meaningless game against a hapless team like this is really promising.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (27 children)

KAT playing defense like this is a game changer. Straight-up, strong defense in the paint, shuffling his feet and keeping his hands active on the perimeter. Over the last few seasons, he’d improved from a bad defender to a mediocre defender, and this year he’s just actively a good defender.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao. Instead of retaliating, KAT helped break the fight up, scored a third of the teams points and came out with a win.

Star players’ value comes from what they do on the court. PatBev thinks that’s the proportional response cause he’s a bench player whose presence on the court is a net loss for his own team as often as it is a net asset. A player like him or Draymond can afford to get thrown out of game, KAT cannot.

It was obvious once Draymond starting jawing with Ant a few nights ago that he’s trying to stir something up to bait technicals or get guys thrown out of the game. That KAT didn’t lean into that is a huge part of what won them that game

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Look at the bottom left corner. The Timberwolves rim protection is so good that teams just aren’t even attempting shots at the rim anymore.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It’s actually really depressing watching Russ, Harden, PG, and Kawhi team up to look like one of the absolute worst teams in basketball.

If you’re under 30, these four have been some of the biggest names in basketball practically your entire life. To see them reduced to this and not even being able to beat a dramatically undermanned, colossally struggling Grizzlies team, is just kinda pathetic

 

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Relatively obscure stat, but impressive nonetheless.

The Timberwolves defense right now looks like an undeniably top-tier defense. Rudy is DPOY front runner, and they have a stable of long, athletic defenders that can guard ferociously inside and out. Entire team is bought in to being an elite defense, and they have the personnel to do it.

They’ve got an extremely difficult 5-game road stretch coming up. How they do in that stretch will tell us a lot, but right now they are head and shoulders above any other defense in the league.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This is not like Rudy’s Utah teams where a generational defender is covering for a bunch of bad defenders; the Timberwolves are a team with a ton of really talented, versatile defenders in addition to Rudy.

Rudy is back to DPOY frontrunner level of play; his speed/mobility is on a completely different level than the player Timberwolves fans watched last season. Jaden McDaniels is almost a DPOY-tier defender in his own right; he’s the best non center rim protector in basketball and he is maybe the best PoA defender in the league. Ant is an all-defensive caliber SG when he wants to be (tbf this is a huge caveat). Kyle Anderson is a great defender, both on-ball and as a defensive playmaker. NAW is a great PoA defender. Naz can hold his own on the perimeter. Conley’s lost a step but he can still keep his man in front of him. KAT is playing legitimately solid defense. The entire roster is bought into playing good defense.

They’ve got the best rim protector in basketball, a stable of good to elite PoA defenders they can swap in and out, they’ve got suffocating size while not compromising on speed. I think true 5-out teams could still be an issue, but this is undoubtedly the best defensive team in basketball right now.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This is like a five alarm fire, players only meeting tonight kind of game.

70 to 30 run is unimaginable against even the 2017 Warriors, let alone the Hawks. Jesus fucking Christ they are just completely broken on offense, only time it’s looked good is because Ant or Naz or someone is going on a run.

 

This includes just 15 points in the 4th quarter when the quarter started tied.

Big swings happen, but to go from up 79-60 at halftime to losing 127-113 is not normal. The shooting has been cold, but something more fundamental than that looks broken. They just have no offensive identify or set plays, and ball movement breaks down consistently in the halfcourt offense.

At some point, Finch will have to adapt his free flowing offense. If your best players can’t run it going on three years, even if it’s their fault, then it’s on you to adapt.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

One of the deepest among half the league. I’m getting kinda tired of having to explain to people that don’t actually watch real NBA games how valuable Naz, Anderson, Naw, and Milton will be in their respective roles. That is a serious 9-man playoff rotation. Who in the West, if we are discussing in good faith, even has a claim to a deeper roster?

Clippers and Lakers might be the only teams in the west that are deeper, and I’d argue neither of them have depth that is as well-rounded in terms of fit and versatility.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If you don’t think Naz and Kyle Anderson are high quality players then it’s just hard to take your opinion seriously. On NAW, you of all people as a Nuggets fan should understand his value. Murray had a couple of games where he just could not miss no matter how covered he was, but NAW had him uncomfortable almost the entire series on defense.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and they were one of the deeper teams in the league last year. They missed their multiple all-NBA PF for 50 games and Gobert, Naz, Anderson, Prince, JMac all missed 12 to 28 games and they still won 42 games.

You get also get a massive gain in addition by subtraction from just losing Jaylen Nowell (truly one of the worst players in the NBA last season) alone, and that’s nothing to speak of Milton being a massive upgrade on the floor as a player, as well as Austin Rivers. It’s also worth noting that it wasn’t clear they’d be able to keep both NAW and Naz this offseason.

 

There are better teams in the West, and the Timberwolves are certainly not a top-tier western conference post-season contender, but I do think they’ve got a roster that’s going to put them in a position to be one of the best regular season (regular season) teams in the WC.

Starters: Conley, Ant, Jaden, KAT, Gobert.

Bench (players regularly in the rotation): Shake Milton, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Troy Brown Jr, Kyle Anderson, Naz Reid.

Deep bench: Jordan McLaughlin, Josh Minott, Leonard Miller, Luka Garza.

Their 5-man bench rotation is extremely versatile on both ends, although perhaps lacking in size in the front court. You have two legitimate self-creators/microwave scorers in Shake and Naz. You collectively get high level playmaking/distributing on the floor from Shake, NAW, and Anderson. NAW is quietly developing into one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA and Anderson is a versatile, high level on-ball and help defender. And you get quality 3 point shooting across the board (Shake shot 38% from 3 last season, NAW 38%, TBJ 38%, Slow Mo 41%, Naz 35%).

Their deep bench has a ton of promise too. Minott is an athletic, 20 year old wing who averaged 18-8-3 and 2 stocks in the g-league last season and whose athleticism/motor/defensive versatility is going to earn him a spot in the rotation long-term. Leonard Miller is 19 year old versatile wing who can handle the ball, defend, and score and is shaping up to be a big part of the team’s future. McLaughlin and Garza are both legitimate NBA-quality players that could (and did last year/prior years) easily slot into the regular rotation if injuries arise. Although Mclaughlin dealt with a nagging calf injury most of the season last year, he’s a high level backup PG who can facilitate well and run the offense as a pass-first, high IQ guard. Garza saw limited action but was an efficient, versatile scorer and good rebounder (per 36 of 27-9-3 on 54-36-79 shooting splits) that filled in well for KAT last season.

You have high-quality/versatile scorers, PoA and help defenders, shooters, and playmakers at all levels of the roster and it’s a roster made of almost exclusively returning Timberwolves players. They have a legitimate 12-man rotation and eight if not nine guys who will be able to earn honest playoff rotation minutes this season. I think the Timberwolves are going to surprise a lot of people in the regular season, unless they’re ravaged by injuries I think 50 wins is not out of the question (although I think their post-season ceiling is one series win).

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