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There are better teams in the West, and the Timberwolves are certainly not a top-tier western conference post-season contender, but I do think they’ve got a roster that’s going to put them in a position to be one of the best regular season (regular season) teams in the WC.

Starters: Conley, Ant, Jaden, KAT, Gobert.

Bench (players regularly in the rotation): Shake Milton, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Troy Brown Jr, Kyle Anderson, Naz Reid.

Deep bench: Jordan McLaughlin, Josh Minott, Leonard Miller, Luka Garza.

Their 5-man bench rotation is extremely versatile on both ends, although perhaps lacking in size in the front court. You have two legitimate self-creators/microwave scorers in Shake and Naz. You collectively get high level playmaking/distributing on the floor from Shake, NAW, and Anderson. NAW is quietly developing into one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA and Anderson is a versatile, high level on-ball and help defender. And you get quality 3 point shooting across the board (Shake shot 38% from 3 last season, NAW 38%, TBJ 38%, Slow Mo 41%, Naz 35%).

Their deep bench has a ton of promise too. Minott is an athletic, 20 year old wing who averaged 18-8-3 and 2 stocks in the g-league last season and whose athleticism/motor/defensive versatility is going to earn him a spot in the rotation long-term. Leonard Miller is 19 year old versatile wing who can handle the ball, defend, and score and is shaping up to be a big part of the team’s future. McLaughlin and Garza are both legitimate NBA-quality players that could (and did last year/prior years) easily slot into the regular rotation if injuries arise. Although Mclaughlin dealt with a nagging calf injury most of the season last year, he’s a high level backup PG who can facilitate well and run the offense as a pass-first, high IQ guard. Garza saw limited action but was an efficient, versatile scorer and good rebounder (per 36 of 27-9-3 on 54-36-79 shooting splits) that filled in well for KAT last season.

You have high-quality/versatile scorers, PoA and help defenders, shooters, and playmakers at all levels of the roster and it’s a roster made of almost exclusively returning Timberwolves players. They have a legitimate 12-man rotation and eight if not nine guys who will be able to earn honest playoff rotation minutes this season. I think the Timberwolves are going to surprise a lot of people in the regular season, unless they’re ravaged by injuries I think 50 wins is not out of the question (although I think their post-season ceiling is one series win).

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[–] firuozleucio0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It’s quiet because there aren’t that many marquee names to the uninitiated.

[–] dkleckner88@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm excited for the Ant-Jaden-NAW-SloMo-Rudy lineups. Absolute terror on defense.

[–] Powerful-Ride-3728@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Whos the pg in those lineups slomo?

[–] Puzzleheaded_Fox4684@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

is Naz a good defender?

[–] archerarcher0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I fully agree, they are looking mighty spooky this year

Should be a pretty spooky season for wolves fans

[–] Thimit22@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Say spooky one more time..

[–] keyboardwarrior89@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShakesbeerMe@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

See you Wed.

[–] Ubishuuubish@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Iight man lost me at Troy Brown Jr lol

[–] MrAppleSpoink@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Troy is capable of playing rotation minutes. He’s a solid man defender and a pretty consistent catch and shoot guy, as well as a good transition target. He struggles with off ball chasing a bit but he’s your prototypical “stick him on their 2nd best wing” guy.

[–] Salty_Minnesota@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He’s like 10th or 11th in rotation. Which is kind of OPs point, no?

[–] Ubishuuubish@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No he’s an important wing player for them trying to replace Prince production from last year who played clutch mins for them

[–] Salty_Minnesota@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say here, man. No disrespect just can’t follow this sentence.

[–] Confident-Fish2805@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I love prince and his game is nice but his body was getting worn down by the end of the year.

[–] Due_Connection179@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Isn’t this the same roster as last season, just with Brown Jr and Milton?

[–] toasty_-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Minus Prince

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, and they were one of the deeper teams in the league last year. They missed their multiple all-NBA PF for 50 games and Gobert, Naz, Anderson, Prince, JMac all missed 12 to 28 games and they still won 42 games.

You get also get a massive gain in addition by subtraction from just losing Jaylen Nowell (truly one of the worst players in the NBA last season) alone, and that’s nothing to speak of Milton being a massive upgrade on the floor as a player, as well as Austin Rivers. It’s also worth noting that it wasn’t clear they’d be able to keep both NAW and Naz this offseason.

[–] FishGoldenLite@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

And a hopefully healthy KAT. People can clown on him all they want but he’s a beast and was sorely missed last year. I also think most people expect Ant, Jaden, and Naz to get better - they are all very young still. Shake is legit the best back up wing we’ve had in a long time and NAW was only here after the deadline and made a HUGE impact.

[–] WheedMBoise@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

As much as all of us (Wolves fans included) complain about Rudy and that whole trade, the team did really well when they actually had both KAT and Rudy playing together. This year hopefully we get more than 15 or so games with the entire starting 5

[–] FOTASAL@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think Troy Brown Jr. or Shake Milton are very good. I’d say they have a solid top 8 players but that’s where it stops.

[–] ComfortableTicket392@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah this is the time of year all fanbases, minus maybe Charlotte fans, are high on hopium.

One of these guys is going to look like a dud and either that player or the coach will be who faces the majority of ire from fans for why their team underperforms.

I expect Twolves to be ~ top 4 in the west, but there are so many other good teams.

[–] maryjain_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is going to be a big year for KAT, maybe the biggest of his career so far. He kinda had a down year last year although tbf he was injured for most of it. I think there’ll be a lot of pressure on him to make the two big line up work since Gobert kinda is what he is at this point and KAT will have to be the one to adjust his game to fit in more. It’s also the first time he’s had serious expectations, a gentlemen’s sweep in the first round probably won’t cut it anymore. It’s time to see whether he really can be the number 2 guy next to Ant for the future.

[–] bradperry2435@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

But they still have towns on the team minus his set of balls

[–] Daconvix@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It’s solid, but ain’t nothing special fr

[–] bloodmuffins793@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol they're gonna be the same old Wolves.

Those bench guys you listed aren't really that good. The bench is a bunch of mediocre journeymen. The "deep bench" is G-leaguers and scrubs. None of those guys are NBA-quality. They're not 82-game players, let alone 16-game.

And even if they had some great, deep team, it wouldn't matter because Towns will always find a way to drag them down. Edwards can't win with that KAT.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If you don’t think Naz and Kyle Anderson are high quality players then it’s just hard to take your opinion seriously. On NAW, you of all people as a Nuggets fan should understand his value. Murray had a couple of games where he just could not miss no matter how covered he was, but NAW had him uncomfortable almost the entire series on defense.

[–] mcoollin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I guess the terrible gobert trade didn't ruin them as much as people said

[–] thegodfaubel@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Their success this year entirely falls on Ant and KAT. If they are great, then they could make the WCF. If they're not, then they will struggle to make the playoffs. They probably need to consolidate that depth into another star to contend

[–] Crunc_Mcfincle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I’ve known that Naz was gonna be tight ever since he was at LSU

[–] Mechaultima@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

No more excuses

[–] seceipseseer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you wanna bet spurs finish ahead of them?

[–] Roy-Hibbert55@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

My bank account lol

[–] CaliforniaHurricane_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They may be deep but they’re going nowhere with KAT

[–] LonesomeWulf@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It is spooky season 🐺 👻

[–] dkdoki@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Deepest roster? Am i missing something lol. More like some ppl recognize names on the bench = deep roster.

[–] EsotericPotato@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

One of the deepest among half the league. I’m getting kinda tired of having to explain to people that don’t actually watch real NBA games how valuable Naz, Anderson, Naw, and Milton will be in their respective roles. That is a serious 9-man playoff rotation. Who in the West, if we are discussing in good faith, even has a claim to a deeper roster?

Clippers and Lakers might be the only teams in the west that are deeper, and I’d argue neither of them have depth that is as well-rounded in terms of fit and versatility.

[–] AnkitPancakes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is mostly the same team from last year isn't it. (Add Shake and Troy Brown Jr)

[–] RVAIsTheGreatest@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I agree with you u/EsotericPotato and one of KAT/Rudy is gonna be on the court pretty much at all times, so they'll have enough size with their bench rotation. NAW has really come on as a player. He has looked fantastic with the Timberwolves and I think Shake is a great addition...he does a lot well. He can facilitate a little, he can definitely slash and pressure the rim, can shoot, can defend...he's a good player. McLaughlin is a good player and will probably have his moments of time depending on matchups and rhythm of a game.

Wolves have fantastic depth, Ant has taken a leap it appears, Rudy and KAT are healthy. Wolves offense was quite a bit better with Conley last season, struggled before it. His table setting and off ball shooting took their offense to another level. This is the best team in Minnesota in a very long time; since the KG/Spree/Cassell team.

[–] Poopscooper696969@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] IHave580@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Luke can play too. I've watched him a few times and he is a pretty skilled.

[–] j1h15233@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

And none of it will matter because you can not play and win with Gobert in the playoffs

[–] BettaMom698@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

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[–] ShowdownValue@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We are deep! Look at our roster. There are so many players signed!

[–] BubbleGumGuy94@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Whatever makes you sleep better at night lol, the bench is kinda mid as hell (except for Reid who I love)

[–] nonstopenguins@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Spike94515@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] WikiHowWikiHow@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Leonard Miller becomes pretty good in 2K

[–] Jicama-Smart@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I enjoy nothing more than reading OP edit their post to berate the people responding to their original point

[–] ace_alive@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is not a sub for discussion, it‘s just a sub for posting videoclips, outbof context twitter headlines, news headlines and getting reactions to them from very young fans that watch highlight videos at best.

I think your points are interesting but you need to post them in smaller subs which discuss basketball and the NBA, which definitely is not this sub.

Nice OC effort, completely wrong sub.