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Mocking Donald Trump as well, last night Kimmel said on his show: “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.”

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If their lead about a deer rifle in the woods is accurate, then it would be strange if these were pictures of the suspect given he is not carrying a rifle or any means of concealing one.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty impressed with the WSWS take:

It is politically appropriate to condemn the killing, which accomplishes nothing progressive and actually aids the efforts of the Trump White House to attack democratic rights and erect a police state. But that is no reason to glorify the victim or cover up the bloodthirsty, bigoted character of his political perspective.

The Times editors claim, “Such violence is antithetical to America.” On the contrary, such violence is the stock in trade of the American ruling class, whether directed at striking workers, racial minorities, immigrants, or political figures deemed to be dangerous or merely inconvenient. It is barely a week since the president of the United States ordered the incineration of 11 people in a Venezuelan fishing boat, claiming, without offering any evidence, that they were drug smugglers and terrorists.

Matt Dowd was fired from MSNBC for much less.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Alright. What did you mean by “ignorance should not have a safe space there”?

Last week, a student at Texas A&M objected to the professor teaching about "transgenderism" in the classroom. The teacher was doing their job, teaching the scientific consensus. Instead of challenging the teacher's ideas, the student challenged the legality of teaching science. The student was ignorant. Instead of admitting ignorance, or even assuming their own competence and trying to argue their ideas, the student took the third route: threats of political violence. The student warned the teacher that police could come and force the teacher from teaching the truth.

Campuses should be very intolerant to ignorance like this student displayed. But instead the teacher, department head, and dean were all penalized for standing up against an enemy of free thought. That is the goal of this administration - to force indoctrination on American children, and shut down all the spaces where having discussions like this one we're having right now might open their eyes up to the lies they've been taught.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

In a school, it should be safe to admit your ignorance.

I didn't write very much, and I clearly didn't write that you shouldn't be able to admit ignorance at school. If you actually care about reading and understanding what I'm saying, then this is your opportunity to demonstrate you can roll it back, tone it down, and read what I wrote again. If some of it is ambiguous to you, you can ask me questions.

It seems like you're looking for a leftist punching bag, and that will just make you look like another hateful violent right-wing brute. Are you afraid to talk about your beliefs? Are you afraid to talk about them anonymously and online?

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Left-wing streamer Kyle Kulinski says Charlie Kirk was feuding with nazis to his political right before he was killed.

Right-wing pundit Clayton Morris shares rumor that Charlie Kirk was concerned Israel was going to kill him, and that he was wearing body armor when he was shot.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The speed of technological progress tends toward an exponential curve, and Frank Herbert understood and knew this, but wanted to write a serious medieval saga set in the distant future. The Butlerian Jihad was always a plot contrivance to explain why in the thousands of years of intergalactic civilization, human life is still recognizable to us, and still recognizable from their in-story ancestors.

But just because AI was treated as an enemy by fictional fascists, doesn't mean it was good. Fascists are enemies to other fascists. It's an ideology that is always seeking enemies, and will either invade outwards or purge inwards - but their enemies don't need to be 'good' or 'bad,' they only need to be 'other.'

It can both be true that a technocratic class using thinking machines would have dominated the human race, and the force that prevented their rule is a theofascist eugenic autocracy. The theme Herbert I think would have appreciated his readers noticing is that there is no real difference between a crushing totalitarian dictatorship under an inhuman technocratic class, and a crushing totalitarian dictatorship under a charismatic leader and a religious cult.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I mean, Kirk was on Gavin Newsom’s podcast in March and Newsom talked about how his kids loved Kirk. How his 13-year-old son refused to go to school because he wanted to stay home and meet Charlie. And if that doesn’t tell you how wide Kirk’s appeal is among young people I don’t know what would.

And look. A lot of people on the left also discount or ignore how young conservatives feel discriminated against in higher education. Rightly or wrongly, I’m talking about their beliefs, not the validity of those beliefs. Kids who come from red states with conservative Christian beliefs about sex, about gender, about what it means to be a man, they’re proud to go to college so they can earn a better living and do better for their future children than their parents did for them. And then they hit the culture shock of college and both students and teachers are telling them “everything you believe is wrong, you’re a bad person for believing it, and if you even try to argue for it we will ostracize you”.

There is no 'rightly or wrongly' -- what you're describing is indoctrination and brainwashing. They are and should be discriminated against, but not because of where they're from or the color of their skin, but because they have been taught wrong, and most importantly have been taught to see challenges to their beliefs as a threat. The purpose of a school is not to validate your pre-existing beliefs, but to give you a space to challenge your ideas and learn new ones. Ignorance should not have a safe space there, and people who do not come to learn should not feel welcome.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

And ironically, part of the issue is a lack of empathy on the left. Instead of asking why conservatives believe these things and trying to understand how to convince them otherwise, the American left just wants to call them fascists and deplatform them. “It’s not my job to educate you” is smug and contemptuous and one of the nicer ways the left respond to conservatives.

No wonder you delete all of your comments. That's a pretty terrible take.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

Or a jilted lover from his closeted life. Let's not jump to conclusions.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

On the forums right now, right wingers are frothing themselves up about the 'left' -- but both attempts on Trump's life were by people who fit much more neatly into the right-wing stereotype.

Claiming to care about the Epstein files, and then radically changing direction to protect pedophiles may have been the trigger that got him shot by one of his fans.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

If he was shot in Chicago, their trauma centers may have saved his life.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

What ghouls

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