NoneOfUrBusiness

Yes, I prefer to stir fry mine.

Also Obama is a corporate stooge who will fix nothing and do nothing.

that was only possible because of the more free atmosphere those wars established in this country.

And a healthy dose of "or else" political violence.

It's also why we need to avoid violence and make the regime stumble into itself.

Here's the thing: It's not going to fucking do that; it's going to stumble into fascism. Fascism is stupid and incompetent, but it absolutely does not and will not fizzle out without a resistance as committed as the fascists themselves. I mean, which fascist movement in history "stumbled into itself?"

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

But they'll then join up with the new MAGA when that springs up in about a decade. Unless something is done about the core issues propping up MAGA, they'll just keep coming. [Redacted]ing MAGAt leaders is, while not something I'd object to, not enough to really fix anything.

The Democrats? Seriously? These Democrats? Sigh.

This is exactly the path towards finding out what a real lack of rights are.

Because the current and ongoing abuses of US minorities aren't real, right? You're really outing yourself here.

now name a program that exists that 100% definitely has nothing that could be called systemic discrimination.

There it is, folks, the all or nothing fallacious reasoning.

Have you forgotten that this is about Trump,

To you this is about Trump. To others it's about the injustice they have suffered their whole lives that got worse under Trump but did not originate with him. Being able to laser-focus on Trump is a privilege; it assumes that the politically relevant parts of your experience before Trump were if not good then at least tolerable. This is not the case for a massive chunk of the population. I mean, hell, for example ICE kidnappings are nothing new; Trump is just performatively cruel about them. You can't take a stand against some injustice and expect the people experiencing the chunk you're letting go to help you. As a wise man once said:

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me

Those are just rights for one person to you?

These are rights for people who are economically well-off enough to exercise them. You don't, in fact, have the right to due process if you can't afford to miss work to exercise that right, and you don't have the right to speech if your three jobs don't leave you enough time to exercise that right. And you don't have any of these rights if you're being enslaved (and yes, it is slavery) by a for-profit prison. Constitutional political rights on their own are woefully insufficient to address the problems of minorities in America, and as they have repeatedly experienced, "later" more often than not is a synonym for "never." Point being: If you have no answer for systemic discrimination in your program, then yes you're not defending the rights of minorities experiencing that discrimination. The right of a black person to not be killed by the police is as or more important than your right to complain about the government.

And here we go, a disagreement over policy balloons instantly into "racism and xenophobia"

Oh, so you're saying you personally don't like DEI policies. In that case I'm not necessarily calling you racist and xenophobic, but your seeming willingness to accept the results of past racism and xenophobia is definitely concerning. If I was running the meeting you wouldn't get kicked out, but your "can we not include DEI in our platform" would be met with an uncompromising "no." Before I explain why, do you understand the concepts of systemic racism and generational wealth?

but I think they've been implemented poorly and often turn into discrimination in their own right.

You need such "discrimination" to undo the results of past discrimination. For example, did you know that despite being only ~0.7% of the population, Native Americans make up about 24% of the poverty population of the US? Is this not injustice? How do you rectify it without affirmative action (aka DEI)?

"We need to get my rights now. Your rights can come after we can argue about them in a civilized manner." Setting aside the moral duplicity of this, it's just not how you build a coalition. For them to fight for your rights, you need to fight for theirs with equal commitment.