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  1. Tyrese Haliburton
  2. Anthony Edwards
  3. Tyrese Maxey
  4. Zion Williamson
  5. Darius Garland
  6. Tyler Herro
  7. Scottie Barnes
  8. Chet Holmgreen
  9. Evan Mobley
  10. LaMelo Ball
  11. Cam Thomas
  12. Alperen Sengun
  13. Victor Wembanyama
  14. RJ Barrett
  15. Paolo Banchero
  16. Jalen Williams
  17. Franz Wagner
  18. Cade Cunningham
  19. Jalen Green
  20. Josh Giddey

Important:

- considers all components of the game: offense, rebounding, passing, efficiency, defense, etc. (i.e if you average the same points and on the same efficiency and the same assists, but they average less turnovers and are a little better of a rebounder/defender, they are higher.)

- the ranking is based off: 65% this season, and 35% previous years and previous success and accolades (i.e if one guy is slightly worse than the other this season but has some really good previous accolades, he gets a higher rank, like Josh Giddey hasn't been good this year, but he makes it over someone like Ausar Thompson because he was really good last year and Thompson's only played a couple games)

Alright, any time you make a subjective list like this your gonna get torn to shreds no matter what the list is, go on tell me why I am wrong and why your favorite player should be higher.

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[–] Bladex20@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No way you have Sengun beneath Cam Thomas

[–] Gamesgtd@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He has RJ Barrett above Banchero and Wagner. Let him cook lol

[–] spongebobandco@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dam I am definitely taking Lamelo top 5 if I had a choice..l

[–] Harman3112@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Josh giddy is at least top 15

[–] Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He definitely likes them 23 and under

[–] 8v2HokiePokie8v2@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Give or take 4 years

[–] TheyCallMeTheWizard@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Giddey is 17 tops

[–] WrightwoodHiker@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What’s your reasoning for having Herro over the 8-10 guys?

[–] katielin-nextdoor@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That’s the major one that I’m like what the fuck

[–] __boobs4life__@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lamelo is better than chet

[–] TB_016@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Considering he just turned 20 (guy is a full year younger than Brandon Miller and the Thompson twins that were drafted this year) Shaedon Sharpe should sneak in.

[–] Clemsontigger16@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mobley slightly too high, LaMelo too low, Cam is comically high and probably shouldn’t even be on the list, Sengun is way too low, Barrett being on the list is hilarious, Paolo too low

[–] Fallingcity22@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rj is better than cam rn but not better than Franz or Paolo

[–] Clemsontigger16@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Neither should be on this list lol

[–] Jnbjgjbb@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Herro over Barnes?

[–] Sokkawater10@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yo Op this is wild. I’d have Sengun at 3 legitimately

[–] N_A_Z_r_the_letters@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Ant should probably be number one if you're using your own guidlines

[–] Low_Beyond8134@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Ant man is 1

[–] IsaacDPOYFultzMIP@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The absolute disrespect to put the Magic duo under Barrett of all people

[–] Bhris1999@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This list is straight ass lmao

[–] MuddSprite3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

On god lmao

[–] EliManningsPetDog@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

RJ is better than franz stop w that 😂

[–] pascaleon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I want a legit reason why Hali is better than Ant and I love Hali.

The only thing Hali will have on him is playmaking and efficiency but Ant has been efficient himself and is a great defender

[–] SourBerry1425@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

As a Pacers fan I agree. Ant’s overall game is more valuable and the only way Hali stays above him is if he maintains 25 and 12 on 50/40/90 AND becomes an average defender, which I think he can cause of his size and basketball IQ but he’s sadly shown no signs of progress in that department.

[–] Dennorak25@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t really care who goes over who, but “only” playmaking is ignoring how massive that gap is.

PPG wise Haliburton is at 25.4 PPG today Vs 26.7 for Edwards

APG wise, Hali is currently at 12.1 APG vs 5.1 for Edwards, over doubling his total there.

Efficiency wise, Hali has been even more efficient than Edwards too. Ant is definitely the better defender which needs to be factored in, but statistically I don’t think there’s much argument so far this year Hali has been a better offensive player

[–] TreeAgenda@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’d like to point out here that Ant is being hounded by doubles every game now. So, yes, Hali’s efficiency is higher, but it’s obviously a bit easier scoring and moving the ball 1v1 than 1v2.

Despite the doubles, his splits are still roughly 46/38/87, which are obviously still good despite the insane attention.

[–] tarunpopo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Mobley is not that good he's the same dude for years. I never knew people cared about defense in Cleveland that much

[–] carpanacalan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Listing players who didn't play even fucking 20 games is disrespectful as hell to the others on the list.

I don't care how wembenyama or chet looks good or their ceiling. They did not play at least a half of a season.

[–] mxgicjohnson@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

These lists are dumb cause some people are so closely ranked, they will never get these lists right

Tier lists are the way to go

Lamelo not top 10 is crazy tho.

[–] durablewaffle@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tbh this list is a joke. Sengun is safely top 5, maybe top 3. Herro is a bit high. RJ Barrett is a bit too high

[–] KarachiKoolAid@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You lack vision

[–] CazOnReddit@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

considers all components of the game: offense, rebounding, passing, efficiency, defense

3. Tyrese Maxey

[–] General_Dentist_4306@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

boy, this is...something

[–] Inevitable-Paint-650@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Franz, Banchero and Sengun need to be way higher

[–] Directionerection@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Sengun way too low

[–] MuddSprite3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This list is horrible lol

[–] likpoper@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Wtf is cam Thomas doing here

[–] Musicferret@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Would you rather have Herro or Sct Brn on your team? lol

[–] bullpaw@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Coby white is unironically better than Giddey

[–] knowthyself6@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’d put Giddey at 17, hopefully no lower but you never know

[–] everyoneneedsaherro@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Cam Thomas over Sengun??? Lmfao

Sengun should be at worst 6th on this list

[–] DarwinF1nch@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I will not stand for this Kegan Murray erasure. Dude set the rookie record for most three pointers made and has turned into a very positive (dare I say elite?) defender.

[–] ReggieZoldyk21@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There’s like MAYBE one dude you have ranked over LaMelo that’s actually better than him lol