Saleh

joined 2 months ago
[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If he wanted Trump to win, then why wouldnt he endorse Trump? This way he would bring normal Trump/Rep voters, to what, what they usually vote for.

Also it is not plausible that the followers of a literal Nazi leader from an organization that wants to exterminate all brown people would prefer voting for a mixed race women over voting for another Nazi.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

And there are a lot of right-of center voters that are on the fence that would back him over Trump- and therefore will support Shill

So he is taking votes away from Trump, helping Harris.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

I said he wants to help Harris by harming Stein.

This is painstakenly obvios.

You said Steins goal is to take votes from Harris. So the target audience is potential Harris voters. So the target audience of the "endorsement" would be potential Harris voters. But the guy is a Nazi so he is alienating potential Harris voters from Stein, bringing them back to Harris.

If his target audience would be Trump voters he would also be helping Harris by moving Trump voters from Trump.

Either way Harris wins by this endorsement and this is his intended goal.

You just kept insulting me and making accusations instead of addressing the logical inconsistency in your contradicting claims

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (7 children)

So your argument is that any basic logic is a strawman, because you dont want to face the logical contradictions in your statements?

Lets go back to the start:

What do you think he wants to achieve?

Who do you think is his target audience for the endorsement?

What do you think are the goals of Steins campaign?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 6 hours ago (9 children)

So you think that he beliefs his target audience to be Democrat voters?

Or do you think he wants to siphon off votes of Trump?

Because that would also help Harris, but contradict your statement regarding Stein being there to damage Harris and help Trump.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (11 children)

So you agree that the nazi guy is helping Harris by him alienating progressive voters from Stein.

Then you have to conclude that he is just very very dumb, or you have to agree with my statement, that he wants to harm Stein and help Harris. Which brings the important question, what does the nazi guy gain from helping Harris?

As the guy was leading a large organization, him being dumb is unlikely. Him being good at scheming and manipulating on the other hand is very much on brand.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org -1 points 7 hours ago (13 children)

So you claim Steins goal is to siphon votes away from Harris in order to help Trump.

So the target audience of Stein under that premise are center/progressive voters. The target audience clearly is not Trump voters.

So even if Steins goal is solely to siphon votes from the Dems, any vote that goes to her is a "win" for her. And the opposite, any voter deciding to go back to Harris is a "loss" for her.

Him endorsing Stein is clearly aimed at achieving the latter. You said it yourself,

Stein’s campaign exists solely to harm the democratic nominee

So her target audience are solely potential dem voters. And these are alienated by that endorsement, as is also very clear in this thread.

So there is two options:

A - the guy is a total moron
B - he is achieving exactly what he wants

A seems unlikely to me, as nazi leaders are despicable and evil, but smart and scheming.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 8 hours ago

Given that more Iraqis were killed by the Clinton era sanctions, crippling food and medicine access for Iraq, as well as the general hawkishness of the Dems, as evident again with Israel today, it wouldn't have made a difference.

When it comes to invading and murdering brown people, both parties are pretty similar. Heck Hillary Clinton always got a hard on for escalating to war with Iran.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org -3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (15 children)

Why do you think a literal Nazi would be honest in his public endorsements and not just doing it for tactical reasons?

Think about it. Trump supporters gonna Trump. This "endorsement" is aimed at harming Steins campaign with moderate and progressive voters, as is evident with the reaction here.

Now the question is, why he wants to do that, as it helps the Harris campaign. What does he think he gains from helping Harris?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

"Enlightened" atheist centrists are often pretty similar to what they claim to be smarter about than people who follow religion and ideology.

And thinking one is "immune" because of their ability to "think critically" is a very solid step to vulnerability. You'll finde the same wordings for Q-Anon and other conspiracy theorists referring to themselves.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago

It causes the body to release adrenaline and noadrenaline.

In the short run that is stimulating. In the long run it is detrimental to your body.

Very simplified speaking it is chemically related to amphetamines, which are shaped in a similar way like dopamine, adrenaline and the other stimulating hormones. So they all end up interactinf with similar parts of your hormone/neurotransmitter system.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

It is a proxy/identifier for other social, political and economic divides

 

1
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Saleh@feddit.org to c/dach@feddit.org
 

Stand 21:00 hat es leiche Veränderungen gegeben. In der Sitzverteilung haben Linke und BSW je einen Sitz mehr, als in der 1. Hochrechnung, und AfD und CDU jeweils einen Sitz weniger.

view more: next ›