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[–] Steve 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Donald Trump said he wants Israel to “finish the job.” The Democrats at least were making overtures to peace.

Do you want 10 pounds of shit or 11? Who cares?

The pro-Israel crowd were already mostly evangelicals, all in on Trump from the get go.
Nobody would have voted for Stein if Harris took her Gaza rhetoric.

[–] Steve -1 points 1 week ago

She doesn't have to politely stick to a meaningless tradition, giving him a call to fucking congratulate him!

[–] Steve 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

That was entirely about Israel and Gaza. The Democrats refused to distance themselves from the Republicans on that. Both sides were all in on the genocide. So yah people who felt it was the number one issue, had little reason to vote for Democrats over Republicans.

[–] Steve 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I didn't say progressive. Progressive is a very broad term that can apply to all sorts of things.

I said economic-populist. One of the few things nearly all of us agree on in this country, is that the corporations and the ownership class have too much power in politics, and they're getting that power by stealing money from the working class. Trump was good at speaking to that, without actually doing much to help. The Democrats did some to help. But not enough, and they didn't want to sell it much for fear of scaring off the ownership/donor class.

Leave behind all the racial, sexual, social justice progressive stuff. It's divisive and won't help you win. Helping the poor generally, will disproportionately help those people more anyway. Just without putting them in the spot light.

[–] Steve 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It goes back farther, to Bill Clinton embracing Neo-Conservitive economic principals.
That was the beginning of the end of the Democrats.

[–] Steve 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Forward doesn't even need to exist after achieving open primaries, ranked choice voting, and multi-member districts. Until that happens UBI won't be possible with the corpo duopoly we have.

Parties don't have to be perminant. Even less perminant should be our support. Other parties will be possible when our process is fixed. Which ever ones support any form of UBI will get my support. But that may be a decade away or more.

[–] Steve 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

The Democrats threw it away.
For several races now they've been told by many actual progressives, they need to embrace economic-populism. They refused to. Instead embracing the Cheneys. They got out played by a convicted felon, who's older than his IQ (thanks to another lemmon for that line. I love it).

[–] Steve 4 points 1 week ago

Not a dictate. Just a suggestion if you're interested in being constructive. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

[–] Steve 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Then engage in the discussion at hand, rather than trying to derail it.

[–] Steve 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Who said the person deserves attention? Even a right to it?
I didn't.

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