StillPaisleyCat

joined 1 year ago

Not every Star Trek show needs to be made for you or your (our) age group. We need new shows to appeal to younger viewers and keep the franchise fresh.

I’m an old thing who watched TOS in first run in my primary grades. I have absolutely zero patience with the position you’re taking. I watch it all and don’t need to see people my age as the principal characters anymore than I did when I was six.

Shows aren’t made for the mass audience anymore, and even TNG was a bit beyond our kids when they became franchise fans as middle graders. They loved watching Voyager reruns though, demonstrating to me why it was the most successful Trek show on Netflix.

Always an important reminder.

More Star Trek is good, & like Lower Decks and Prodigy, which are also designed to appeal to different, younger audiences, the old fans might just find they love them too.

Many of the old TOS fans were unbearably resistant to anything but the original crew and ship, even though movies were being made about them. (They had done the same thing when TAS was in development.) It was really difficult to come to a convention between 1987 and 1990 as a TNG fan.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Posts like this reconcile me to the bad, infinitely-memed guy in a Gorn suit in TOS ‘Arena’.

OP can I recommend Star Trek: Lower Decks as your gateway … to the onscreen franchise. A logical place to start.

LOL

So far, all the slippage of major events has been downstream - Eugenics war and WW3 moved back from late 20th century to mid 21st century.

But who knows, could the Romulans inadvertently move something forward.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Just pointing out that any & all of these dates may have slipped due to temporal incursions in the Prime timeline by Romulans and others.

Temporal War leaves its artifacts in terms of non critical deviations - the river of the Prime timeline is very resilient. They key events will happen give or take a few decades.

Lowest rate by whom?

We shouldn’t let brigading fans who just can’t bear the idea of a musical episode spoil it for the rest of us.

When there’s a weird spike at the 1/10 on IMDb, it’s clear that it’s a campaign of gatekeepers not an assessment of any validity.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know that is my own daft mess. Didn’t check the article date last week when it arrived fresh and new in my feed with 1 day old stamp.

Thanks for the catch, and hey perhaps there’s some Shatner fans that missed this when it was released.

This instance and community it doing well, but is far from the half million base on the old place.

The mods have been really positive towards establishing new communities as volumes pick up. Many of us would like to see the one for Treklit (books and comics) split of, but we just don’t have the numbers to make those kinds of communities viable yet.

Also, there’s really benefits to a crosscutting discussion. Things are civil enough here that it’s working.

We see a lot of people here finally becoming persuaded to give shows they’d passed on a try, including Lower Decks.

I’m not seeing the coming in 2024 notice on my Netflix in Canada nor the option to be reminded when it’s released.

CTV’s app is still showing all 20 episodes of Prodigy season one listed as available for CTV Sci-fi Channel subscribers.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weird that it’s excluded in Canada - since it won’t be streaming on Crave as well as broadcast on CTV Sci-fi.

Up to now, Netflix has been able to get the streaming rights to CTV Sci-Fi Channel shows if Crave doesn’t take the complementary streaming portion of the Canadian market.

Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed.

They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season.

So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts.

They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though.

Paramount and WB, unlike Disney, never gave up on releasing physical media.

It was a billion dollar business in 2021 despite ideas that it’s dying out, and the advent of 4k releases is boosting that.

I saw an article in the metrics industry press last year saying that it was a major source of revenue for both, one that doesn’t get sufficiently taken into account on metrics for movies or television (whether originally linear or streaming) when making greenlight decisions.

Paramount Home Entertainment is a significant revenue generator and seems to know its marketing. Perhaps the people at the top of the firm should take them more into account.

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