Stillhart

What's the over/under on how much this guy paid into the "game" so far? I'm gonna say with this level of defensiveness, at least a few hundred dollars. Considering he plays with his wife, probably double that.

I admit, they fooled me into contributing to the Kickstarter. But at this point, anyone who has anything positive to say about this project is a paid shill (paid for by us!) or heavily in denial thanks to sunk cost fallacy. They say you can "play" it now, but it's still not a game, it's a tech demo and sandbox.

I'm perfectly happy to write this off as a failed Kickstarter, it happens from time to time. But when they keep trying to con money out of new suckers, it really pisses me off. Enough is enough. Assholes.

For me personally, I tend to compare it to movies. I have no problem going out and paying $15-20 to go be entertained for 2-3 hours. By that metric, a $60 game needs to keep me entertained for maybe 10 hours for me to feel like it wasn't a complete waste of money.

As I alluded to before, I tend to also value how entertained I am during that time. A good movie or a good game doesn't have to be long to be worth the price of admission. And conversely, there are games that I have more time into that I feel like were not worth the price (coughDiablo4cough) but I kept playing because of a combination of sunk cost fallacy and trying to find what all those other people thought was so good.

What you're asking about here is value, which is a purely subjective thing.

Here's the thing: we all play games for our own reasons. Some play for an interesting story, some play for challenging mechanics, some play to be scared, some play just for something to pass the time. How much you enjoy a game will depend on how well it meets your goals and that's often hard to quantify.

If your sole purpose of playing is to pass the time, then sure $/hour is a great metric for how good a value it is.

And let's not forget that people all have different amounts of disposable income. For someone with a lot of money to spare, it takes a lot less to make $60 "worth it" than for someone without reliable income.

At the end of the day, everyone has their own idea of value and it will change over time.

Hey, some of us paid for TF2 via the Orange Box. :P

I mean I get what they're trying to do, but I feel like the people successfully making money with spam/bots will not really have a problem with that fee.

NGL, I bought a PS5 on the strength of the first two Spider Man games alone. Been waiting for this game for a long time. Glad to see the reviews are solid!

Because of how much they "borrowed" from Fromsoft's games.

Sooo... are the guys who made this living in a country that doesn't enforce copyright law or something?

No company is your friend. But a smart company finds ways to make money off you while still leaving you happy and content after

Exactly. If this weren't the case, companies wouldn't exist in the first place.

That said, MS has historically been pretty anti-competitive and monopolistic so I don't see any reason to expect that to change. But I think that even at their worst, this isn't going to be as bad as people are making it out to be. Playstation won't go away because of this. Playstation is already worse than Xbox in almost every way, they're just coasting right now. People will point to this merger as a turning point for PS but I think that ignores where PS is already at.

Not a fan of market consolidation. It's bad for the consumer at the end of the day.

But if I were to look for a silver lining: 1 More quality Gamepass content and 2 Maybe MS can save Blizzard from itself.

It's funny, as often as I see these posts about free games on the Epic Games Store, I still have absolutely no desire to ever install or use it.