houstonrockets3311

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[–] houstonrockets3311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Joe Johnson. 7x All Star and 20k points is probably going to make it. Don’t see the Hawks retiring his.

 

Just interesting and shows how he tends to be a slow starter. Many players had this happened once - off the top of my head Zbo, Tyson Chandler, Dragic, Bogut, Siakam - but all just once. Wondering if he has the most of these seasons in history.

[–] houstonrockets3311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Shaw wearing 32 to 34 to 32. Seems like only 32s in Florida.

[–] houstonrockets3311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He needs at least another ring - nobody in the consensus top 10-12 has less than 2. Another ring + 3-4 more all star appearances for longevity would still just put him near or outside the top 12. 2 more rings + 3-4 more all stars would cement top 10. Even just 2 more rings and 1-2 more all stars wouldn’t cut it - almost everyone in the top 10-12 has 10x all stars.

 

It seems like somehow the trade value of FRPs has increased a lot since early 2000s when I started following. It used to be a filler to trades but why does it seem like today its traded as if its equal in value to a near all star or average starter player? If you think about it, in an avg draft you’d get like 6-8 NBA all star caliber players (over the course of their careers), 15 (so half of the first round) to be solid starters/rotational players, and the rest won’t really pan out in the league. And of the NBA all stars there’s going to be 1 or 2 who are one hit wonders or didn’t really deserve it and most who will need 4-5 years to develop into one. So one random FRP has an expected value of basically just a solid starter or rotation player, and that’s over the course of a career - the expected value for the first 2-3 years is really just a bench player or fringe starter. So why are there trade scenarios where 2-3 FRP are seen as fair for an already established all star player?

[–] houstonrockets3311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Magic was okay with letting Malone take number 32 but Malone decided not and used 11. You can still find a pic from the press con with Malone holding up a 32 jersey.

 

Yes I know his legacy is more than cemented but nobody should be immune to criticism, you cant tell me even if he goes 0-82 he should still be considered a top tier coach. Just like players can be past their prime so could a coach. He hasn’t really done much since Kawhi left the team, the Derozan/Aldridge team didn’t achieve much, and as much as we are still in a ‘development’ and experiment stage for Wemby, this can’t realistically be the best case you’d expect. At what pt do we say “Maybe he isn’t the best coach for this team” or “Another coach could get more wins than him with same roster”?

[–] houstonrockets3311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Pretty much story of the franchise since 1980s. Pretty mid, never a contender but frequently in playoff mix, never really sucking too much (except for early 2000s).

[–] houstonrockets3311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He is absolutely useless. A Tony Snell, PJ Tucker 0/0/0/0/0 would be more positive for the team cuz at least they wouldn’t be taking shots and possessions away from better players.

[–] houstonrockets3311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What is he thinking? Does he know he sucks or not.

[–] houstonrockets3311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Klay for prime Shaq, prime Jordan. Why not?

When its not as early

Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis on Sonics and Heat. Pierce and Garnett on Celtics and Nets (although they were traded together, sort of cheating). Horace Grant and Shaq on Magic and Lakers.

He’s a clown now but Agent 0. His 3 year prime is just as good as anyone’s and he went toe to toe with Kobe at Kobe’s peak.

 

Ppg numbers have gone up a lot as we all know - you have a lot more 20/30ppg players compared to the 2000s. But we don’t see the same trend in assists? Usually its still less than 5 players avg >10 assists in a season, similar to the 2000s. And we’re in a much less iso heavy, more ball movement style of game. Is it just that assists have been distributed more equally amongst players nowadays rather than it being the PG being primary distributor?

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