jatone

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[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

leftists very much believed trump could win a second term primarily because neoliberals would drop the ball during the election. we were warning liberals all year.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

LOL. many of us practice and own guns, we just don't make it our entire personality.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

welcome welcome.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Trust the engineers.in the actual software domain then, electronic voting is a terrible idea. Not because it cant be done well, but because it wont be done well.

The counting machines are more than sufficient.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

😂 child i have two degrees, one masters (cs), and two bachelor's (cs, biology specifically a medical degree for my humanitarian work). My college required economics courses. Ive forgotten more math than you've probably been introduced to.

congrats acing your economics courses. I remember acing them too while sleeping through them. Clearly they didnt teach you how to think unfortunately but not unsurprising.

Demonstrated by the fact I literally told you i agree with you on taxing billionaires, just that it wasn't relevant to voters who are struggling. They dont care if billionaires are taxed or not when they can't put food on the table, a roof over their head, or are unsafe. If you want to win an election telling people we'll tax billionaires when they want food security and their friends and family to stop being murdered is asinine.

So please either revisit your economics courses or at the very least learn how to comprehend what you're reading.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You dont realize how the majority of money was raised after he dropped out and that trump managed to win with half of the money is relevant to the discussion of 'only harris could access biden's campaign funds.' nonsense reasoning the dnc and media gave for why we absolutely must go with harris as the candidate?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

no it doesn't harris raised almost a billion in 3 days. that billion was not committed to biden. not even 200 million of it was before he dropped out. trump won on 400 million.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Again, an old tired argument. Now take everything you said and apply it to harris as it applies to you and her just as equally as it applies to me. I told you to re-read my posts until you understood what I was telling you., you've clearly failed. as you continue to think your position is the default one. its not.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And no I didn't stop paying attention to the campaign, she just never committed to stopping the arm shipments. full stop. I literally checked her campaign every fucking day for two months waiting for her to shift. the closest she got was on the final day and even that was far too little to convince anyone she was willing to do what needed to be done for the arabs to vote for her. and by then many people had already cast their votes.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

sigh okay I'm done. please continue re-reading the last post until you understand what I'm telling you, i edited in a few extra details. You keep thinking I dont understand the implications. but its clear you don't understand human behavior enough and think you can keep nattering at people with your theory they'll eventually be swayed.

I in no way was fighting you or harris. I was helping arabs. you have yet to give a single fucking reason harris couldn't have shifted positions that a community of people would fucking accept their family members being murdered and that cost harris 25 points in the electoral college at a fucking minimum.

Instead you've been nattering on about all the other problems that will crop up because trump won. well guess what, their family and friends matter more to them than ukrainians, lgbt, etc. You need a reason that can convince people to accept the murder of their family and friends. and good fucking luck.

So kindly take your own advice and stop cutting off your nose to spite your face over support for a fucking genocide. Because there is no argument you can make, that I havent already heard, or thought of in the last year that will counter what I've been telling you and you're just going to have to accept that.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

like i said you're not bringing anything new to this conversion. I'm well aware about whats currently and going to continue happening in the middle east, and elsewhere. stop assuming people don't know whats to come just makes you look foolish. we did this entirely eyes open. not our fault harris and people like yourself thought it was a bluff. it mostly just demonstrates the supreme lack of empathy harris (and those like her) have.

The gall telling people to begging for their friends and family to not be murdered to 'stfu, and vote for the lesser evil' when the lesser evil is literally the one murdering them.

If you want to know a secret, I would have voted for harris if she was at risk in my state, but 1) she wasnt, 2) the arabs community wouldn't, 3) they needed all the support they could get.

I was happy to help them attempt to push harris and the DNC, as you should have been. if more people took my stance and tanked harris' campaign even harder earlier maybe we wouldn't be in this mess. sometimes a little empathy is all you need.

You're assertion about FPTP, again you're assuming I don't already understand FPTP. I apparently understand it better than you do. Since I know when I can break with the theory based on contextual conditions in my state. I also know I can lie to my candidates/pollsters/you about my positions leading up to the election in order to get more than I really need to commit my vote.

I also understand FPTP theory doesn't account for human behavior and that murdering peoples friends and family will naturally be such a stressor they won't give a shit about its theory. I know I fucking wouldnt. so next time be more empathetic towards people being murdered and maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

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