Still seems a little too idealistic, not sure how this would really shake down with more complex build systems or multilingual projects.
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Overlays and Version Pinning in the Nix-Config Overlays Module - Unmoved Centre
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I haven't dug into Guix yet, so is the config more of a markup and less of Turing complete language? That sounds like it'd be easier to grock or optimize an LSP for.
I have heard that Guix takes a stronger stance with respect to unfree software. I don't think any of the official nix Hydra infrastructures build for unfree packages, but they are packaged and indexed into nixpkgs. Has Guix been difficult at all in that regard, i.e. using proprietary drivers or closed libraries for work or personal hardware?
As soon as you veer off the beaten path, things can get really tricky.
For med tech and robotics development, I'm still using Debian via docker because the surrounding ecosystems for those software communities are so tightly integrated with the Debian.
Hey do we have a central place with everyone’s configuration file ?
As roundabout as it sounds I've had good luck using GitHub's code search with language:nix and path:flake.nix modifiers.
E.g, I was looking for complete flake examples to overlay nvidia drivers from the unstable branch/channel, I used this regex:
- https://github.com/search?q=language%3Anix+%2Fhardware.nvidia%2F+%2Fpackage+%3D+.*unstable%2F&type=code
Most folks publishing their configs often have more advance setups, but still nice trace git blame to learn how they evolved.
some config file editor where I can just toggle kde + nvidia drivers +
There is SnowflakeOS this kind of stalled, but that could change with recent improvements to structured edits of Nix:
I think installing NixOS is something that could really benefit from more community mentoring or nearby a local linux user group.
Now that I have a working config for my hardware, I feel like I could explain it all to my old self in under half an hour. But to get to that point of familiarity took a few days. Having someone over your shoulder to save a new user most of any trial and error could go a long way in terms of adoption or bounce rate. It's like subject that can be tricky to approach solo, but could be trivial if tutored even slightly formally.
If you also like me prefer spoken/visual instructions over written forms, I'd also recommend these resources:
Well let me at least leave why I think Nix is not it at the moment:
- Software Center - browsing search.nixos.org isn't quite the same in terms low friction and discoverability
- You already have to know what you're looking for, and it can't make system config on your behalf
- Debian or conventional package managers usually offer a native GUI for package selection and deployment
- System Defaults - the minimality of a basic default install can cause a lot of papercuts
- the default boot partition is rather small given the OS's prepecity to add new kernels with new generations
- and without any garbage collection service enabled by default, user first encounter switch failures due to this
- External Binaries Compatibility - Linux also suffers from this in general as compared to MacOS or Windows
- in addition to being much more niche, reuse of existing binaries from more prevalent distros becomes complicated
- the desktop ISO could suggest a nix-ld config with default libs most binary distributes expect, easing in new users
- The Nix language - much more complex than conventional cong markup langs, being more of a turing complete DSL
- partial working LSP impare introspection while writing, and the runtime error messages are poorly formatted
- most desktop users (in debian or fedora) have little need to learn their OS's packaging schemas, but NixOS users do
What are we doing here? This isn’t even an argument.
Correct, this isn't an argument, or at least I'm not trying to argue.
All I wanted to learn what exact properties you though makes for a better desktop OS.
I'm in agreement that NixOS isn't the best for mainstream desktop user base, but like any decent inquiry or survey, if I just preemptively bias someone's responses with my own observations on NixOS defecenties, then there wouldn't be as much of a case to before ask what they think other Linux Distro do better in the first place.
Not everyone who strikes up a convo online for a debate, and not all (but quite a few) who ask questions are trolls.
It's a slippery slope, to be sure.
It doesn’t matter, because Nix isn’t built for it. That’s not it’s purpose or what it’s best at.
I was asking more about linux distros other than NixOS.
They all offer a better desktop experience because they are tuned with their packages and experience.
- Would you say it's a front end aspect? If user driven system changes were as simple as using a Software Center UI?
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similar [desktop] experiencesounds relative, what the comparison? Windows, MacOS, linux?
Not great for an uncontrolled user experience.
- Interesting. What linux distros are optimal for that use case?
- Specifically what properties of those distros make them ideal?
Does anyone know of an Android app to install an additional 3rd party TTS engine that can then be configured to point to a custom Open-AI/Fast-API endpoint for self hosting higher quality voices that are not easily run/fit on mobile hardware?
Whoops, I misread scheme as schema. That's really powerful. One thing I wish I could reliably do with a Nix LSP is navigate to a definition of a symbol.