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Everyone hates officials. Wrong calls get made. No Calls happen all the time. And inconsistent officiating in a game can give the appearance of bias. What if instead of making every play reviewable for currently non-reviewable plays, teams could appeal to new york and get awarded penalty negations.

Essentially creating a system where if one team is getting away with penalties the other team starts getting awarded the ability to force a penalty to be declined.

Each team could have dedicated personnel reviewing plays during a game and submitting them to new york during a game. If new york agrees you get a penalty negating flag that a coach can throw to automatically overturn a penalty.

You might have to cap the number at say 2 penalty negations to avoid incentivizing plays that could lead to injury. Like if one team had like 6 penalty negations in their back pocket you would just rough the passer a ton on a drive and still have some left over. Just 2 would incentivizing saving them for important situations.

This could do a few things:

  • reduce the appearance of biased officiating. If the officials on the field are missing calls against one team well the other team gets rewarded for it.

  • reduce dubious penalties that cost teams in big spots. Nothing feels worse than feeling like a bad call, no call, or iffy call (like when a penalty isn’t getting called all game then suddenly gets called in the last few minutes of a close game) costs a team a win.

  • disincentivize flopping.

  • incentivize excessive celebration and taunting in blow outs, which are fun.

I think this would be in addition to the existing review system.

I also think maybe you limit the number of plays a team can appeal a lot of penalties occur in a gray area and don’t get called on most plays. So teams should only get a handful of plays to appeal. So that only really bad officiating mistakes earn a negation. An example might be the no call on an obvious face mask penalty.

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I’m talking a reasonable career length, not a guy that played two games and lost both.

I saw something on the Bears sun that Chase Claypool has a record of 2 wins and 20 losses over the last two years. Is there anything comparable?

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Last night, the Bucs called their final timeout when the Bills got a 1st down with 2:12 remaining in the 4th quarter. This timeout saved them 12 seconds as the clock would’ve run to the 2 minute warning.

The Bills proceeded to run the ball on 1st, (brought them to 2 min warning); 2nd (brought them to 1:15) 3rd down bringing the clock down to about 40 seconds for the Bucs.

Alternatively, if the Bucs let the clock run from 2:15 (when the Bills got a 1st down) to the 2 minute warning, and THEN called a timeout on 2nd down, the clock would be 1:55 and 3rd down. Then, they run a play on 3rd down that milks the clock to 1:10… this would give the Bucs an additional 20-30 seconds.

TLDR: why call a timeout to save 12 seconds, when you can save 40 seconds?

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These are select stats as of week 7, TNF may have shifted things slightly

TDs per game: lowest since 2001

Avg yards: lowest since 2008

Yards per play: lowest since 2007

Passing TDs per game: lowest since 2008

Net yards gained per pass attempt: lowest since 2007

Yards per reception: lowest EVER

Sacks per game: highest since 1997

Field goal attempts: highest since 1973

Kickoff returns per game: lowest ever (obviously new kick return rules)

Yardage per kick returned: lowest ever

All purpose yards per game: lowest since 1946 (passing+running+punt return+kick return+interception return+fumble return)

Source: pro football reference

I heard a mention on the radio that some offensive stats were trending quite low so decided to take a look. Found this pretty interesting considering all the rules that have been put in place to the benefit of offense.

What might explain this? Better defenses? Offenses/coaching worse? O-line depth? Younger, inexperienced QBs being thrown into the gauntlet- average QB age is probably the lowest it has ever been? Something else?

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Michael Irvin's football reference page: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/I/IrviMi00.htm

  • 1988: 14 games, 32 catches, 654 yards, 5 TDs
  • 1989: 6 games, 26 catches, 378 yards, 2 TDs
  • 1990: 12 games, 20 catches, 413 yards, 5 TDs

He was a former #11 overall pick at the time and I feel like any 1st rounder putting up those numbers would get lambasted. Was this the sentiment back then before he became a HOFer?

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I can't speak for the WWII seasons or the strike shortened season(s[?]), but this whole season feels immensely dumb.

From the Rodgers injury onwards things feel like they aren't making any sense. I might sound biased because I'm a disappointed Giants fan, but I did not expect the Vikings and Titans to be down here with us. And now the mighty Patriots are finally a perennial Bad Team. And wtf are the Bengals doing.

The Chiefs are the only team that look legitimately great. The Eagles and 49ers are top teams but look painfully mortal and straight up goofy sometimes.

Most games I've watched seem like absolute nonsense. Each week there's at least one game that makes me turn into an Insane Clown Posse Digital Circus side character: Giants-Bills, Browns-Colts and now Bills-Bucs.

This is entirely subjective but is anyone else feeling like this is all nonsense

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They also boast the 3rd best 3rd down conversion % and the 5th best red zone TD conversion %.

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That's absolutely wild to me. They have 134 rush attempts on the season and not a single one has gone for a TD. 18 total TDs (16 passing, 2 defensive).

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Super bowl greatest catches ever: #1 David Tyree helmet catch 2007 season SB to hold on and beat undefeated pats on last drive. #2 Julian Edelman crazy diving catch in 2016 season vs falcons in Super Bowl #3 Priest Holmes to win the game in 2008 season Super Bowl #4 Julio Jones crazy sideline catch 2016 season in super bowl #5 Jermaine Curse bobble catch in 2012 season Super Bowl *Honorable mention goes to Lynn Swann Super Bowl 10 the bouncing circus catch.

If you agree or disagree let me know, and post some better plays you might know of thanks, others I considered were Issac Bruce perfect adjustment in SB 34, Mario Manningham in double coverage in SB 46, and the original One Handed Catch by Max McGee in Super Bowl 1

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Burrow, TLaw then Baker. Has that happened before?

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It seems like almost every Hail Mary I see in College and the NFL has some level of PI but it is literally never called. I’ve seen much less egregious contact called on other plays.

Is it just expected and the referees think it’s too difficult to defend without PI?

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Who would you guys say are modern day comparisons for historically great WRs like Rice, Moss, TO, Megatron, Marvin Harrison etc? Play style wise of course.

Me and a couple of buddies were trying to think of some but there was a vigorous amount of debate.

A few that we came up with:

Rice - Diggs, Terry

Moss - DK

TO - Chase, AJB

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