NFL

Football in general hasn’t been too bad. My team on the other hand…

No. Defense finally caught up to offense, a good thing in my opinion.

Yes.

It's abysmal and it's incredibly difficult to watch

I think one reason is the lack of elite QB play. Elite QBs are what make the league watch-able.

Brady, Brees, Peyton Manning, etc. retired. Now all we have are Mahomes as the sole top-tier guy, Hurts, Burrow and Allen at the 2nd tier, and.........well, a dearth of QB talent below.

Watch dolphins games. Week 1 for instance great game

Week 3 was awesome. But yeah, Red Zone does feel a bit less exciting recently. Of course, I haven't been watching much of Red Zone because of a "life upheaval" so...

Hate hate hate hate these takes so much, long term trend wise offense is just getting more and more and more prominent and the game is becoming closer to college. We are spoiled now and wanna see every game be 41-34. There’s a shit ton of young coaches and QBs in the league right now and some unfortunate injury situations. The high flying offenses will return as the current young core of star QBs gain experience and refball continues to make good defense impossible. Stop supporting the watering down of the sport. Soon we will be watching 2 hand touch arena league

I’m having fun

Yes.

I like turtles.

Defenses are good and more people need to appreciate that.

I hate to say it man, but that’s just you getting older. Eventually you’ll either get over it and love football more than you ever did or you’ll just continue to lose interest until you have no idea what’s going on anymore

The product has definitely gone downhill. Goodall has always been a disaster ; they took a product that was bulletproof and ran it into the ground . It’s all hype and nonsense. You been to a game recently? Blasting music telling us to cheer , tv timeouts stopping play after every big play , incredible prices on everything starting when you hit the parking lot . Rules so messed up that we have to watch multiple replays in slow motion to decide where the ball is placed whether a reception is completed or a touchdown scored . It’s pathetic. I’ve been watching games since the 1960’s and it’s never been worse . Just because a game is close doesn’t make it good football.

Doesn’t this get asked every year?

This season has been dire. Even the supposed elite teams have been ass. Half of the starting QBs in the league are just plain terrible. The refs continue to be the refs and ruin games for the sheer thrill they get from being dickheads. There have been some good games for the most part it's been an awful viewing experience.

The league has become terribly boring to me.

It’s because of defenses adapting and scheming better and the adopting of the two high safety look

There's been some good competitive games, but the officiating this year has been so absurdly bad as to give the "the game is fixed for Big Gambling!!!!!" conspiracy theorists actual ammunition. It's not enjoyable to watch refs take the game out of the players' hands week in and week out.

Just fucking sucks man… die hard bear fan. Was so mad after The first throw bagent had too mooney was called down.. that woulda made the game so different. Poor dude can’t get a fair shot on his first fucking play of his second start. Hate these refs so much

Freedom Bird Gang!

Im also in agreement with the majority of the people here. DLINE is just good all around and Oline not so much. Even with my team having the best record at the moment those games won were ugly. While the new coordinators and players were definitely a factor in why they havent looked as dominant as last year, I felt since game 1 that there has been something off with Hurts and turns out he has a bruised knee which explains why he doesnt look as explosive. Hopefully it doesnt get worse and it truly just is a "bruise". These next few weeks should be a little more exciting bc them Freedom Birds and other good teams will be playing each other instead of just mediocre teams.

Same thing as last year

Thank sports betting being pretty much global now

Funny how this thread shows up every time KC loses.

I used to always watch primetime games but this season im just avoiding the matchups that are shitty on paper cus they are in fact shitty

Enjoying baseball playoffs more.

You're right. I've been yawning at most games.

Also having to watch NFL on FOX makes me want to die. It's sooooo awful.

It's a few things.

1. The schedule is terrible as in, we had 6 byes last week but none this week, it makes no sense.

2. Alot of divisional matchups have almost back to back games. We just had a broncos chiefs matchup two weeks ago, had their second matchup now (no cliffhangers later), the cowboys and commanders have almost back to back games, and eagles giants too. These divisional matchups need to be AT LEAST 3 games apart, it's a mess.

3. Lastly, primetime games, the most hyped most watched games, have been terrible matchups.

Bad Primetimes so far and this week

• Steelers Titans

• Raiders Lions

• Bears Chargers

• Bucs Bills

• Giants Bills

• Raiders Packers

• Seahawks Giants

• Giants San Fran

• Eagles Bucs

• Browns Steelers

• Saints Panthers

Why are the giants, the biggest fraud playoff team from last year, hyped and on so many primetime games? Why weren't the rookie QBs on primetime this week? Did they really honk the raiders would be so fun to watch this year or the bucs losing Brady?

I get the overuse of the chiefs and cowboys, but there are so many better options that they are allowed to flex and they haven't. But the honest truth is, if we aren't showing the league with our views what we like and don't like, why would they change it.

I feel like lately you can predict when the flags will come in and they’ll always be for the team losing because they want to keep the game close. Then they ignore blatant penalties if it’s not gonna help the losing teams. It’s pathetic.

NFL is considered entertainment rather than a sport yet they still miss that mark

Too much hamstringing of the defense.

And refball.

I watch one or two games a season after 20 years of watching every minute of every game that was televised. The concussion stuff, (I myself have post concussion syndrome and that concussion protocol doesn’t account for so many things), Tom Brady and his magical, never fails to appear 30 yard pass interference calls, 1000 commercials, freezing to death watching the most dire football ever (I am in Cleveland). Fuck the NFL

I love football, but I hate the NFL

I'm tired of seeing DBs get called for pass interference on underthrowm balls that are 8 yards short of the receiver just because the receiver jumps up and collides with the DB.

I’ve watched more NFL games this year than I typically do over a full season. I don’t know why.

What really stands out to me is just the number of fucking penalties. The NFL sucks dude. It’s every god damn play. It’s to the point where if there’s a 10+ yard pass, the second the play ends my shitty eyes go straight to the clock, waiting to see if the yellow FLAG box shows up. Spoiler alert: it does.

The Vikings/Packers game on Sunday was a hysterical comedy of errors. Probably the best 3 hours I’ve had in a long time. Just two intensely mediocre teams playing even worse than usual in front of a wildly indifferent stadium. It was a riot, man. It had missed kicks, terrible play calls and fumbles, and more penalties than you’d believe. The Packers didn’t get a first down until there was like 3:00 left in the first HALF hahahaha.

Between the refs and Taylor Swift, yes the product is dogshit. But the league and Vegas are raking it in so it’ll only get worse.

I've felt that way the past several seasons. I barely bother to watch anymore.

It doesn’t help when the Giants and Raiders have primetime games every other week.

Football! We don’t complain about football.

Oh yes.

I'm just having fun because the Jags are winning, but yeah, most games are pretty boring.

The game yesterday the worst i have ever seen, hands down. Thanks Jimmy G.

yes, i've been zoning out more than ever lately

a few reasons

first of all, there are some teams that have literally all time great, generational players and are being ruined by a combination of awful QB play and/or coaching.

Just look at the Raiders, Steelers (Tomlin is good still), Browns, Jets, Saints, Chargers, Titans, Colts, Patriots, Commanders, Bears, Packers, Falcons, Buccaneers.

Then there are teams that are obviously rebuilding in Carolina and Arizona.

So I've just now listed 16 teams. Half the teams in the NFL are god awful, borderline unwatchable due to a clear talent deficit in the most important places for these teams.

Then there's the Rams and Giants who obviously still have their stars but a bunch of scrubs so they are just a no man's land team that isn't really supposed to be good.

And now the Vikings will be joining the teams without a QB as Kirk went down.

Now we're up to 19 teams that are basically unwatchable due to awful QB or coaching or rebuilding.

So that leaves us with 13 teams (14 teams make the playoffs) that are playing competitive football right now.

Of those teams only a select few are actually competently good and consistent.

Miami, Buffalo, KC, Ravens, Bengals (assuming they keep their form), Philly, SF (assuming they fix their issues post bye week), Cowboys, Seahawks, Lions.

And then there's both Jacksonville and Houston which are too inconsistent for me to put up there but the Jags seem to be picking their pieces back together and might go on a run.

So 11 total teams are actually "good" teams and Houston is the only intriguing rebuilding team.

It really feels like the NFL is riding on an unbelievable amount of incompetence as of late.

I’ve stopped watching games my team isn’t in. Honestly, I’m barely watching the games they are in. Product is bad. Oversaturated. Too much refs.

If the USXFL can’t find a lane to differentiate itself, its hopeless.

Not at all, it's been a good year so far, in my opinion

When we are getting roughing the passer penalties for sacks and DPI for blocking passes the game is going to be boring. I’ve never seen so many penalties in a season.

the first 5 weeks i'd say was really great, but the last 3 have kind of sucked

Since I can't get Sunday Ticket anymore (too fucking expensive and streaming SUCKS here) I hate this NFL Season.

The network games in my area have all sucked. Total blowouts, bad refs, boring games.

They don't even have pity on us and switch to more competitive games anymore. We're just stuck watching the bullshit games that are seriously one-sided until we get bored and switch channels just to find another lopsided blowout or just give up entirely and go find something else to do.

I love football, but this season has been awful.

Eh, I would say the opposite. Been a lot of parity this year and no team really stands out as a clear SB favorite.

There have always been issue with and calls and penalties in the NFL but the frequent and seemingly arbitrary nature of penalties in the modern game really take away lots of the natural tension, when a penalty is just as likely to bail a team out over having to make a play.

Plus streaming and red zone over the years has made ads intolerable for me and watching a stand-alone game really tries my patience.

To me the actual product (games) is one piece of the puzzle of why we like the NFL. On field product may or may not be down this year. I do agree that the refs seem more inconsistent than ever before. Whats perfect about the NFL is playing once a week for 17 weeks and the build up/anticipation between games is unlike the other 3 major sports where they don't have as many days in between games. Its like watching a tv series back in the day before all 12 episodes were released at the same time. The slow burn! As an Eagles fan this week is pretty hype as its Dallas week. The city/suburbs are a buzz with discussion of how the game is going to go down. And there is the cottage industries around the NFL aheam cough cough gambling and fantasy. So while the product itself may be experiencing some bumps, the slow burn for me is the same. And OP is a Giants fan so its night and day following a 2-6 team vs a better team with a real shot to win in the playoffs (so maybe what I'm saying is I have a higher tolerance to the sub par games since my team is currently doing ok).

Chargers Titans was a good game but there was some referee involved.