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Everything #OpenStreetMap related is welcome: software releases, showing of your work, questions about how to tag something, as long as it has to do with OpenStreetMap or OpenStreetMap-related software.

OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.

Join OpenStreetMap and start mapping: https://www.openstreetmap.org.

There are many communication channels about OSM, many organized around a certain country or region. Discover them on https://openstreetmap.community

https://mapcomplete.org is an easy-to-use website to view, edit and add points (such as shops, restaurants and others)

https://learnosm.org/en/ has a lot of information for beginners too.

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gizmodo.com

If you’re not Google (or, to a much lesser extent, Apple), map apps are damned hard to make. Last year, several major heavy hitters in tech, including the likes of Meta, Microsoft, TomTom, and Amazon, decided to lay down their arms and meet under a flag of parlay held aloft by the Linux Foundation to make mapping just a little easier, cheaper, and less dominated by two companies. Alone, none could establish a big enough data pool to rival the likes of Google Maps, but with their individual hoards of business location data, satellite mapping tech, and more support from smaller tech firms, they could perhaps gather enough data together to help create a whole new series of up-to-date map apps.

On Wednesday, this pooled initiative, called the Overture Maps Foundation, shared its first alpha release for its mapping data. It contains millions of examples for buildings, roads, and geographic boundaries. It’s only the first large release for the planned massive dataset, but the hope is there will be much more to come as companies sign on.

Marc Prioleau, the executive director of the Overture Maps Foundation, was named as head of the project back in May. He’s been around mapping projects for many years, having worked in the start of the GPS market back in 1995, and later moved on to the likes of Meta and Uber for their location-based services. He said if there’s one thing that strikes at the difficulty of building a high-quality app with exacting road and place information, it’s the ephemeral nature of public infrastructure.

“The hardest thing in mapping is knowing what’s changed in the world,” Prioleau told Gizmodo in a video chat. Essentially, map apps are some of the hardest to design simply because of the massive amount of data required to build the systems. Not only do they need to be accurate, but they need to be constantly updated when businesses close and new ones open.

The first Overture release contains about 59 million points of interest that the group claims has not yet been released as open data before. A POI could be anything—a public landmark, a specific building, or a local business. Otherwise, the data contains about 750 million building footprints alongside road data that’s mostly collated from the crowdsourced OpenStreetMap project.

So how much of the world does this alpha release truly cover? Prioleau said the POI data makes up around 60 to 70% of a worldwide dataset. In his mind, a good number to shoot for is somewhere between 80 and 100 million places. It’s something of a Goldilocks problem. With around 200 million POIs, Prioleau said you’d likely be hoarding a lot of “junk,” but too little means you’re obviously missing out on locations, especially from less represented countries.

As far as the building data, he said that “feels pretty complete” as far as laying out worldwide structures, considering that the U.S. itself contains something around 100 million buildings. A good chunk of that data came from Meta through businesses listing their addresses on Facebook or Instagram. Microsoft also handed over some of its data through its work on Bing Maps, but the two sets combined included duplicates, which cut down on total numbers. The Overture director said the foundation has plans to add more datasets in the future from other sources centered on different continents.

The road data is a different beast entirely. The vast majority of it is based on the OpenStreetMap project, an open source, wiki-style resource compiled by internet users going on nearly 18 years. Prioleau said Overture has modified the project’s info to make it easier to attach new datapoints. The project has also worked to standardize and fact check the data contained on the project’s site. There’s also several benefits to using this Wikipedia-style map compared to how Google might spend billions maintaining its map data every year (or otherwise buying up the competition like it did with Waze). Users on the ground can archive and modify the map to note damage during a natural disaster.

“One of the things [OpenStreetMap] does incredibly well is build richness into the map, because what you map is no longer determined by what your commercial interest is, it’s what the community wants to map.”

Prioleau described himself as “the only full time employee” of the Linux Foundation-based group. Otherwise, the Foundation has depended on around 130 engineers from Meta, Microsoft, and more of the steering companies. As far as maintaining the data, the Overture head said that there’s no contractual agreement for companies to use the open source resources, but they’re still heavily encouraging all those who build upon their foundation to somehow give back to the data source with any new information they collect.

“The incentive is: if you want to fork [AKA build off] Overture, start building your own dataset and not give stuff back, then you’re on your own to maintain that dataset going forward.” Prioleau said. “So the incentive to giving back is that your data remains part of this consortium.”

What’s next is to create a “global entity reference system” for attaching data points to a map, which will then facilitate even more layers of information for new apps. Today’s map users aren’t just looking for ways to get from place to place, but from door to door. Delivery drivers need to know where they can pick up and drop off items. People with disabilities want to know where they can find ramp or elevator access.

“Maps are really digitization of things that are observable,” the Overture lead said. “We’re not mapping secret stuff. We’re mapping roads and addresses and places—things that are observable. And as the ways of capturing observable stuff gets better, the ability to build maps gets better.”

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https://gizmodo.com/iphone-find-my-apple-maps-mistake-houston-house

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prnewswire.com/news-releases/overture-maps-foundation-names-marc-prioleau-as-executive-director

gizmodo.com/why-google-buying-waze-will-keep-you-out-of-gridlock

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🛴🔌 Unless anyone objects, I'm going to suggest we map these things as

amenity=escooter_rental
capacity=<int>
escooter_rental=virtual
network=Voi

www.openstreetmap.org/node/110… #OpenStreetMap #Oxford
#openstreetmap, #oxford


urbanists.social/@achadwick/11…

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I've found a couple tutorials on how to add different POI to trails, some show adding a point in the map editor, others a waypoint on a gpx log. What is the current method? Do I just a dd a point, can I add a point on an existing trail?

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👉 www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/1660… 👈 Issue 678 of weeklyOSM is out. 🌏 涵蓋 #開放街圖 #osm 世界大小事的新一期 weeklyOSM 已經發佈 🚀 Lisez les dernières nouvelles de l'univers #openstreetmap 🗺️ Viele Neuigkeiten aus der #osm Welt 📰 新一期的OSM周刊已经发布 🌏 Se ha publicado un nuevo número del semanarioOSM 🌐 最新の週刊OSMが発行されました。⛩️ 주간OSM 최신호가 나왔습니다 💬 Тижневик OSM тепер доступний Українською 📲
#開放街圖, #osm, #openstreetmap


en.osm.town/@weeklyOSM/1107639…

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Sometimes I find unsuitable text values and bad translations in the OsmAnd Add POI Feature.

Any experiences?

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I'm thinking about adding mainly road surface material and quality of my town today.

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Hi, first time contributer, so here are some questions:)

Could someone please check if I did this speed cam right ?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/138752062#map=19/41.15212/-8.58060

Also I have added this comercial gym node, but shouldn't I update the overview of the buildings to show that there are 2 different places now ? If so, how ? ( I am using Vespucci on Android)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/138552050

Appreciate your insights thanks !

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I did purchase AsmAnd+, but now I wander... How do I move it to another device should I need to?...

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I saw a post on OpenStreetmap contributions on another comm, and was asked to post here. It would be really cool to see what people have contributed, and where!.

I have been doing stuff on and off again for the last 13 years, and just installed street-complete thanks to a lemmy thread, i have just gone through and added a bunch of details to my suburb, and really want to start getting addresses added, so i can stop using gmaps so much!

anyway, go to openstreetmaps.org, go to your profile and click "my edits. then try and load them all (unfortunately it is paginated).

Then post a screenshot of your map.

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Hi everyone im new to the OSM community but eager to contribute. Im curious how many of you use OSM on android phones and how you interact with it. I'm interested both in terms of contributing but also using it for its map functionality e.g. navigation. Based in my early research so far the most popular apps seem to be:

  • OsmAnd
  • Vespucci
  • Maps.me
  • StreetComplete
  • Organic maps
  • Magic Earth

Im really looking for your opinions on what apps are worth using and for what purpose. Do you just use one app or multiple apps for different purposes. Which app would you recommend to your tech savvy friend and which to your mum? There's probably a bunch more i haven't mentioned so please also highlight them and any strengths or weaknesses they have. Thanks 😊

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I realize that google maps timeline feature is pretty antithetical to the way the average user here wants to do things, but I really like it as a way to easily go back and see where I went a particular day, or the last time I visited a particular place. It's also the most common way for me to notice a road that's missing from their map, because it can't figure out the route that I took.

Obviously, I'd really like to take more ownership of my data, but I have yet to find any OSM based apps that will just randomly get location in the background and write it down. Does anyone have suggestions?

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Hi! This is the place to show or tell about some cool stuff you did with OpenStreetMap!

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I downloaded Street­Complete to contribute to OSM and on https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/ it warns you that "This app promotes or depends entirely on a non-free network service". I'm not super concerned about that and will still try out Street­Complete but i was just wondering what non-free network service this is. Does anybody here know?

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I used https://streets.gl for the "Google Earth" view of the OSM data.

Much of the work was done with the help of https://rapideditor.org/, although there was also a LOT of manual tracing and corrections along the way.

We have so much new development in the area that I had to rely on some pretty updated satellite images and local surveying to get most of that done (with more to be done in the future as several hundred more homes go up this year).

I used a combination of Bing, ESRI world imagery (the regular, not "clarity" beta), and Maxxar Premium imagery.

Totally worth it!

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Hello everyone. I've just started the adventure of contributing to OSM and have questions. What is the etiquette when it comes to creating "areas"? As in, for example, a Walmart. Do you create an area around the entire property and level it as retail? And then the building. Do I call the building itself "Walmart" or do I just call it "shopping center" or whatever it's called and leave the Walmart part to a point? Basically what I'm asking is should buildings themselves be specific to the business or should that be left solely to the point?

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Welcome guys,

I'm allowing myself to post this since I'm a contributer especially for the Philippines area. I hope more people will join us and we can have a healthy community.

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If there's not on the F-Droid, on the google store is cool too.

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What #OpenStreetMap people are near #Oxford #UK? There's loads of things that need updating. Let's see if we can organise something over the fedi!

(boosts appreciated, sorry for the # and @ spam) @openstreetmap@en.osm.town @openstreetmap@lemmy.ml @openstreetmap@a.gup.pe

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There are some really common items around my city that I find myself adding a lot, and it's a pain to either place them and add the tags from scratch or to pan around the map until I find one to copy. It would be cool if I could save templates of these items to place! Things like the silver bike racks the city installs, or the round planters they place to block off alleys with. Things that are the same every time.

Just rambling, haha.

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Did you recently (or not recently) map a cool area that you want to show? Something you are proud of? Post it here! A little explanation of why it is cool might help as well.

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Thanks for your help, and happy to be a part of this community ☺️

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how does one map an abomination of bike lanes running down the center of a two-way street?!

valencia st in san francisco is currently mapped as a two-way street with outer bike tracks, which used to be accurate. the city ripped those up and painted lanes in the middle; these barely deserve to be called tracks because cars can trivially cross into the bike lanes - there's just a little rounded hump an inch or two high.

do we split the road into two one-way roads with bike tracks on the left side? besides being dishonest, as it's a contiguous piece of asphalt with no median, i think we'd need a ton of new relationships to describe what turns can and can't be done at every intersection.

or, morbidly, do we wait for enough cyclists to be killed that they put it back?

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