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This is referring to another crash mentioned in the article, but I'm sure Tesla will find this was the cause for this crash too.
Elon is never guilty of anything, people are dead and he has a trillion dollars...
Add it to the pile. It's a big pile. This happens a lot. Always somehow the driver's fault.
This is legitimately a common cause of crashes in every model of car. People accidentally press the accelerator when they try to press the brake, and when the car speeds up, they press even harder on what they think is the brake but is actually the accelerator. After the crash, the driver often still insists that they were pressing the brake and the car was at fault.
It's probably even more common in Teslas because the driver doesn't need to have their foot on either pedal in the time leading up to the incident, increasing the chances that their feet aren't aligned how they're used to.
Maybe....but old fat fucks mash the wrong pedal every day in any car. It's the reason why retail is now surrounded by anti-tank battlements.
Last month, 7 in hospital when someone ended up driving into a gym...
This happens 16,000 times a year in USA. Because drivers have never been older, and no one can drive manuals any more, and fat feet no longer fit on brake pedals.
As a fat old fuck, I just want to say I disagree; us fat old fucks don't generally have significantly fatter feet than average. I highly suspect that most old fucks would be as statistically dangerous drivers as fat old fucks.
Is ford guilty of every crash too?
It's not just weird nerds now. Regular people who are just sick of having to drive for their daily commute will defend FSD and refuse to hear the dangers of their poorly implemented code and driver monitoring cameras. To them, convenience trumps safety and privacy.
There was no evidence FSD was involved in this crash.
There are 16,000 wrong pedal crashes in the US every year, 77% are in parking lots. This is so bad most retail strip malls now have cement and steel bollards surrounding the shops.
https://www.hardywolf.com/news/nhtsa-offers-tips-to-avoid-pedal-error/
This is a problem, but it's not a Tesla problem.
My hospital now has these bollards because once a month some idiot parks too far from the parking payment machine, exits a car while the transmission is in drive. We tried signs. The public is very difficult to underestimate.
Which model of Ford is being advertised as Full Self Driving and is crashing into people?
It's never engaged in the time of a crash because it's programed to disengage when the crash is inevitable.
That still doesn't mean every Tesla crash is caused by its driver-assistance technology
No, it's just means that determining if it was or wasn't engaged is meaningless. And so is reporting on individual Tesla crashes as anything else than another car accident.
Nobody said it was.
ThePantser did:
You do realise he talked specifically about crashes that are caused by a feature advertised as self-driving and not every crash ever by a car brand, don't you?
You do realize this was a reply to the following comment:
That comment tries to misrepresent the argument by applying the accusation to every crash involved with the brand, but the comment you quoted correctly brought back the proper context by only applying it to crashes caused by a feature called Full Self Driving. Just because someone tried to sneakily change the context of the conversation, doesn't make every comment in reply to it must follow that change.
But that's the point. Everyone here is assuming the crash was caused by Full Self Driving just because it was a Tesla.
It was prompted by the mention of another crash that was centred around whether FSD was the cause or not. It was a discussion on the fact that Tesla will always claim that their self driving technology is never the one at fault, even in cases where it was clear that it was. Nobody here said all Tesla crashes are caused by the FSD.
Yes. Holy fuck yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimshaw_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
But i don't see them being posted here... how strange! The last one i recall seeing was the woman who drove her range rover through fence and children in London when she allegedly has seizure behind the wheel.