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Except that the British were offering that concession, and the negotiators for the colonists didn't want to take it because really the taxes and lack of representation were just an excuse.
The British were also being ruled by someone with a genetic blood disease that makes you irrational and some form of major personality disorder, not exactly the most trustworthy negotiators.
How directly was he involved in the negotiations? Often the king is the ultimate authority in a country, but they don't actually make many decisions themselves.
It's well known that the colonists were looking for a reason to break away, and that the taxation issue was a convenient excuse. After all, taxation without representation was the norm. It wasn't like all of England had the vote and had representatives in parliament. Entire cities had zero representation but were still taxed. Ireland had been part of the British empire for ages and it didn't have representation.
Well, having a verifiably insane monarch sure couldn't have helped.
It's obviously foolish for anyone to try and argue exactly what happened when for which reasons, we weren't in those rooms having those conversations so we'll never really know. We do know that the colonists hated what they considered overreaching British control (it was kind of the reason they left in the first place), and we know that the British were broke af and desparate to wring every penny they could out of the colonies to pay for wars on the other side of the ocean (sounds familiar). But you bring up a good point in Ireland, they were famously treated so well by the British and therefore were predictably loyal and peaceful subjects of the Crown 🤣🤣🤣
Do we? Or is that the story that has been written after the fact to justify what they did and make it seem more noble?
It sounds to me like you're a product of the US educational system and have accepted what you learned there without questioning it.
Yes we do, it's literally the reason they left in the first place. There were protests all across the colonies, the British even repealed the Stamp Act due to the blowback. There are pamphlets, books, and vast quantities of recorded speeches and debates from both sides of the Atlantic on the issue. From before the revolution.
Sounds to me like you're a product of the Ignorant Blowhard educational system and have assumed you know everything about everything with little evidence to support the assumption.
According to what you learned in an American elementary school?
Nah, according to the Encyclopedia Britannica. Must be more American propaganda though I s'pose 🤣🤣🤣
They're of course going to give you the surface level, popular version of what happened. If you want to actually know the real story you need to talk to historians.
No you need to talk to people who have been dead for hundreds of years, your entire argument is based on not trusting historians.