You americans can always crawl back to the king of england and ask for forgiveness
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This is one of the most effective propaganda lines to keep idiots voting for less taxes for the rich and corporations.
You didn't stop paying taxes, you started getting services and representation in your legislature in exchange for paying taxes.
Ironically, you guys pay taxes to Israel in exchange for nothing now.
you guys pay taxes to Israel in exchange for nothing now.
Nonsense, we get free trips to the desert (god's idea of a chosen land) to go lick rocks!
Lemmy is starting to really tire me out with constant negativity. The niche comms I sub to are mostly quiet, and the big ones it seems like everyone is at each other's throats.
This was a joke, in shitposts. I thought it was worth a chuckle, but not really worth dissection and all the negative energy.
then don't be part of the community? you're not being held back.
Thanks for providing evidence to my point, I guess...
How is me giving you advice on leaving the community because you don't like what people post evidence to what you said?
Because saying "get out" to someone commenting that they think the vibes are harsh is pretty negative.
I am not directing you to get out but that's what I generally did if I didn't like what the community was about, I ain't wasting energy complaining about it.
Edit: Apologies if I am being blunt about it, I feel like the rise in negative posts could be correlating to the current political environment of our glorious circus of a country, people are unhappy, so they post unhappy things.
kinda like how during ussr there were a lot of really sad songs that were released, it's people were just generally depressed.
Or you could just make an effort to be more kind instead of telling people who are having a hard time to get lost...
You exemplified the attitude I was talking about in a single sentence.
Ugh. How does MA have to keep reminding this part of history?
No taxation WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Having a voice was the important part. But asking people to parse a conditional is too much.
“If you breathe mercury, jump off a bridge.”
“You’re telling me to jump off a bridge!???”
Then don't get the fireworks? I'm a huge advocate to just ban the entire thing worldwide anyways. Let the cities organize big shows but no private sales, it's massively wasteful for both your pockets and the environment.
Based and lib pilled
When we quit paying taxes... to England.
It's a half thought, but anything sounds deep to a giant idiot.
Oh get over yourself. Most of us who did 6-7th grade history understand that the "no taxes" period of the Rev War was about everyone understanding if they cut off england they could take this massive new country for themselves. It wasn't but a few years before Hamilton and the rest had do the treasury and more.
It isn't that it is "deep", it is that is a silly little jab at history.
Taxes pay for community benefits and projects like roads and police and fire services and public education and (ideally) healthcare. Those paying taxes should have representatives to help ensure their constituents are benefiting from the taxes they're providing.
The American colonies were being taxed without representation and therefore meaningful benefits from the taxes they were paying. The British government was present in the colonies, but they were there for the purpose of trade and tax collection to benefit of the Crown and those in England.
Ditto
It's not silly. It's ignorant and dangerous.
America is very broken, but the concept of taxes is how we have roads, bridges, first responders, teachers and a number of any decent society's basic needs that the free market didn't give a FUCK about.
Too many ignorant folks who don't understand a progressive tax system, focus on the wrong "enemy" (the minimum wage either versus the trillionaire) and completely buy into the rhetoric you defend here that perpetuates that. And end up voting for people that take everything, build nothing and create the hell these purple irrationally feared in the first place.
And you expect that general public to have internalized nuanced revolutionary war history to the point that they naturally draw any of that from your king of the hill meme?
You are extrapolating a lot from what I said. It's a silly for fun meme, and not mine.
Wait, what idiot thinks that the 4th of July is a celebration of not paying taxes?
Are people under the impression that the US revolution and independence was specifically about not paying taxes? That's some libertarian shit right there.
It's the narrative pushed In alot of schools in the USA
I distinctly remember writing some report about taxation without representation, thinking it was some super important American principle. I was real confused when I learned about Puerto Rico
No one ever accused Americans of being smart.
Listen pal, I wish you were in front of me. Me and my two buddies would take you on, 5 to 1.
The U.S. literally started charging insane taxes right as the country began. They even teach Shays Rebellion in school.
If they taught Shays Rebellion in your middle/high school, you went to a much better school than I
The whole story only makes sense through the propaganda lens, brave freedom fighters against an oppressive government taxing them for no reason.
Then you read the actual context and it's a bunch of new aristocracy high on slave money mad that the empire refuses to let them expand past the boarders established in a war that benefited them and they are now having to pay taxes for.
You know what's also not cool. Making using fireworks illegal because it might cause a fire but don't ban the selling of fireworks.
Fireworks enthusiasts should take their fireworks to a fireworks range when they want to use them and keep them locked in a fireworks case when not in use.
I want to see some fireworks special interest group successfully lobby to have taxes dropped on fireworks in June.