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White House deletes thousands of web pages about energy conservation as heatwave slams US
(www.theverge.com)
this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2026
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So I don't get chewed out: obviously energy conservation is important and obviously taking these pages down is a bad thing. That said all this government telling me to be hot for the greater good pisses me off when no ones been arrested from the Epstein files and we aren't taxing the rich and were still building data centers.
To me this feels like someone telling me climate change is my fault because I threw out a water bottle or drive an ICE vehicle. Like ya someday I'll get an electric car and I should have recycled the bottle but wtf. So many larger more massive issues with energy conservation at larger scales than me running the AC at 70.
I made the switch from ICE to EV a couple months ago, and it wasn't really even about climate change. It's just cheaper and more convenient in terms of fueling, and there's far less maintenance to keep on top of. It just no longer makes sense to choose ICE (usually) if you already need a new vehicle, can charge at home, and don't drive more than like 200 miles per day. I just did a road trip in it last month and it really only made the journey maybe 5-10% longer than if I used an ICE vehicle since we needed to stop for food and bathrooms anyway.
Recycling plastic is almost completely a lie. Very few recycling plants can recycle your water bottle, and it's incredibly wasteful and costly even if they can. The better choice is to not buy plastic water bottles in the first place, and if you do then reuse them several times, but also you're just a drop in the bucket compared to industries' waterfalls, so don't beat yourself up about it when you're not perfect.
It doesn't even have to be about climate change. It's also about balancing the electrical load of everyone in NYC blasting their AC at once. So they don't have brown and blackouts
A lot of the people making these decisions are also not individual people but building managers for corporations and other businesses.
IMO the reason the feds issue most these kinds of guidances is so managers can point at them and say "I'm just following best practice, don't yell at me"
Another solid point I can appreciate that.
I get this, a solid point esp in high demand areas.
lol his advice is like the most standard advice anywhere in the world. A NYC mayor giving advice isnt the government trying to control your life. Calm your paranoid fascist brain cells down.
I have a pretty long history here of not being a fascist and this overuse of the word over something trivial is why its lost its meaning.
Strictly speaking, Epstein and Ghislaine got arrested.
That's the liberal response.
"We're going to give you a choice between the cheap dirty consumerist good and the expensive efficient consumerist goodAnd if you pick wrong, it's your fault that climate change is happening."
The conservative response is some combination of
"Actually, the biggest source of climate emissions is Al Gore's farts"
and
"It's both gay and Chinese to talk about energy efficiency"
No comments on the E-Files, just imagine how a normal person would projectile vomit thinking about any of those people being free.
My cat would have a more sensible argument! Catnip is more important than climate change. (This is irrelevant, my cat requested its inclusion)
"The liberal response" is information projected by corporations and media. Things like trying to make (poorly made) paper straws cool. Thats a media push. Not very many actual liberals think like that. A better method would be getting rid of Supertrawlers in international waters. Their nets make up most of the trash in our ocean. Ridiculous things like paper straws have a form of survivorship bias due to its ...ridiculousness.
Make things like using heavy crude, supertrawlers, and government observation datacenters internationally illegal, with serious punishments like company dissolution, and long prison sentences that have no method of appeal. Pretty easy 3 to get rid of and it removes most gas/oil based pollution, most trash in the ocean, and every awful thing the government observation datacenters do. Clean water wasting, injury causing intense sound, energy grid destroying, town destroying... yeah government observation datacenters are great too.