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That's untrue: they said far more. It's really strange to me how Proton defenders never show you their official statement. Here is one (emphasis mine):
Sounds like woefully ignorant cope. They're a terrorist death cult.
The rest is arguably correct, establishment Dems serve their donors more than their constituents. I don't necessarily blame someone for seeing legislation he supported shot down by the establishment and then switching sides. It's a baby-brain move, but that's what most uneducated Americans do unfortunately.
Case in point, in terms of privacy, the Dems Project 2029 is out and their first policy...is Digital ID and age verification. Which is effectively lifted from Project 2025. KOSA has bipartisan support. Probably because Meta and others are dumping tons into lobbying both sides but ๐คทโโ๏ธ
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/government-surveillance/democrats-pick-up-the-global-digital-id-agenda-in-project-2029
I'd rank the Mullvad founder bankrolling a far right party, who is now saying they have enough funding to put up candidates, and who literally say they will walk over corpses to ethnically cleanse Sweden, a bit higher on the scale.
https://lemmy.zip/comment/27455991
The cope is the most important part. They aren't criticizing Democrats in a vacuum, they're doing it to say JD Vance, the Trump administration, and (in the post that sparked this) Donald Trump and his corporate captured Republican judge are all good.
All that about the dems being captured by corporate interests is true. Had been true for a few decades since Clinton won.
None of it equates to supporting Rump.
I put the JD Vance praise in bold so you could see it.
Vance was the only one to show up. That's all they said. That's what happened. Stating what factually happened isn't suport.
In the increasingly slim chance you aren't just pretending to be ignorant, the official Proton statement makes it clear that all Republicans are the better option, so yes this is praise of Vance.
At the time the Republicans were making some noise about holding big tech accountable. Proton thought they may have ment it. But then big tech made the right donations and all that fell apart.
Nothing anyone at Proton has ever said, has indicated general support for Republicans or Rump.
Yes they have. In fact if you read the other section I bolded for you:
As a bonus, here is Andy Yen praising Donald Trump for appointing a corporate-captured Republican judge
And at the time, several years ago, that was true.
Again, nothing any of them have said, in any way, is any kind of general endorsement of Republicans or Rump.
It was never true, despite your historical revisionism.
I just linked the original post of Proton CEO Andy Yen praising Donald Trump for you too.
And again, (how many times now) he praised a specific action. And at the time the Republicans and Rump were making noise about going after big tech. That's not revising anything. For a good month or so, it looked like they might actually do it, to at least some limited degree. Far more than the Democrats anyway.
If you actually believed this after four years of the Trump presidency, you are either extremely gullible or dishonest in your framing.
And yes, praising the actions of Trump and his admin is equivalent to praising the entities themselves. Don't be obtuse.
On no! Not at all! Today it's absolutely clear Rump was soliciting ~~bribes~~ donations from the big tech players.
And you're still over stating it. He praised an action, not actions.
Hell, I'm the guy who keeps calling him Rump, and even I can say he did the right thing getting rid of the Penny. That was long over due.
What part of "the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses" sounds like the praise of just one thing and not a blanket endorsement
Seriously?
I get that we spend a lot of time online, but the world has much much more in it than big tech. There are at least hundreds of other things out there.
Yes, in the context of him selling a tech product and in the context of him having nothing else to say about Trump, Vance, and the Republican establishment, his praise is clear.
Focusing on corporate Dems, ignoring appointees like Lina Khan, and requiring them to change, was the only condition in the original statement. Which is ironic because now that you admit Republicans are bad (and I repeat, everybody knew this back then, just read the comments), Dems have gotten worse overall so his statement still remains.
Let me try to rephrase your argument here:
In the context of ignoring literaly everything else in the world, praising this one thing, is literally praising everything Rump does.
You see how that doesn't really work?