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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

While I agree in principle, there are people with fibromyalgia who wouldn’t know medications exist for it otherwise, because their doctors barely understand fibromyalgia.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"hmmm have you considered that chronic pain isn't real and you're lying? Don't worry, I'm still going to bill your insurance for the full price of an office visit."

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

You could always do like I do: not be a woman. No fibromyalgia for me at all. My mother and sister keep ignoring that advice.

But on a more serious note, that really has to suck. Autoimmune diseases are much more likely to affect women and are more likely to be ignored. There was a cool Radiolab episode on them. A hypothesis is that women have an overall more sensitive immune system because their immune system is suppressed during pregnancy so having a more sensitive one means you are less likely to get sick during pregnancy. Use of hormones like estriol seem to be helpful. But if you suffer from fibromyalgia, you probably know a good amount/all of that info and more.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 9 points 11 months ago

That is exactly it. One of my family members suffered from it for years before finding out about it online, and eventually had to switch to a new doctor that didn’t try to convince them it was all in their head. It’s hard to accept that the weight of a thin bed sheet on your legs being painful is just in your head, yet that’s the line they were given repeatedly.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is true for a lot of other cases too. People live with chronic conditions because they either don't know that it's an issue and there's treatment, or they sought treatment and there wasn't any help at the time, and since then there have been new drugs release

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

There’s so much new stuff coming out that most doctors don’t know anything about it until someone mentions it or they go look it up on the internet. Some will only refer to their huge out-of-date drug encyclopedia and if it’s not there you’re SOL.

I know a few people with fibromyalgia who didn’t know that’s what they had until they saw a commercial for it. Doctors never mentioned it as a possible diagnosis.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Almost as if doctors need CE training, huh?

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And even then there would still be blind spots.

[–] Ghost33313@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As someone who worked in the medical CE space, oh yea. The doctors who have the most pull are the dinosaurs who have been using the same techniques for decades. Meanwhile the doctors with fresher views and novel techniques based upon new evidence struggle to get a dozen doctors to attend.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Especially for general practitioners. If you’re a specialist with a narrow focus it’s ~~easier~~ not as difficult to stay current but if you’re expected to know enough about everything to refer patients to those specialists, there’s a lot to stay current on, even if you’re motivated to do so.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was so happy when I heard my doctor schooling a few pharma reps on how the drug they were pushing actually works.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unclear… do you mean for the better or worse? Could go either way.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I understand your confusion.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

how the drug they were pushing actually works

Does that mean he/she was explaining the mechanism by which it works and it was good? Or was she/he explaining negative side effects they failed to mention or didn’t understand? Something else?

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, she was just correcting them on the mechanism of action, so I don't think it was a good or bad thing. I was paying and leaving, so I couldn't stay for the whole convo.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thank you for coming back to this! Yes, that sounds like a great doctor, good to hear she wasn’t having to school them on how it was causing harm or something like that.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Then the drive should be to fix that problem rather than the symptom.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's several chronic pain conditions, such as fibromyalgia, that we don't often know what the underlying problem is.

So, we give people medication that reduces the chronic pain they live with everyday.

And as one of those people, I'll keep taking nerve blockers if it means I don't spend half the week praying for death.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah good luck with that.