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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

read that study. it does not prove plants aren't conscious. it casts doubt on the existing claims that they are.

in the conclusion, they explicitly allow for the possibility that it may be proven that plants are conscious.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it does not prove plants aren't conscious

Because a negative can't be proven.

it casts doubt on the existing claims that they are.

Because evidence does not support those claims.

Theists use this same fallacious logic to pretend it's acceptable to worship bronze age death gods.

Let's all use our brains, please.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 days ago

so you seem to understand that what I said is true

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

good catch. also the end of this so-called study has a bunch of bunk too:

Data availability

Not applicable.

Compliance with ethical standards

Conflict of interest

The authors declare that they have no conflict of interest.

Ethics approval

Not applicable.

Consent to participate

All authors consent.

Code availability

Not applicable.

i cant imagine how this thing got printed. it looks like something rfk junior spat out.

All that is missing is working out topless in some blue jeans with raw milk in a hot tub and kid rock smaking himself in the face failing a mic drop.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

in the conclusion, they explicitly allow for the possibility that it may be proven that plants are conscious.

Do they? Please provide a quote, I'm not seeing anything like that in the conclusion.

Here's the other thing: even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.

this has nothing to do with what I e been saying at all, and I am correct, as you explained in your other comment

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In conclusion, we feel we must speak forcefully: plant neurobiologists have become serial speculationists. The ratio of speculation to data in their oeuvre is astronomically high. If they want to form a sensible hypothesis and then test it with real experiments, that is fine, but the prolific speculating and fantasizing need to stop.