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The Chinese aren't ahead of the curb here, they are significantly behind. Flavored cigs got banned in most countries many years ago because they did too good a job. I expect the same thing will happen in China soon.
unlikely. Basically all cigarettes are produced by CNTC or one of their subsidiaries.
CNTC is owned by the state and rakes in a lot of money for the government.
There's a profit ceiling, though. And a lot of countries are finding out that the larger cost of cigarette usage is borne by the healthcare systems that need to spend a disproportionate volume of resources to manage the various health complications caused by a lifetime of smoking.
One of the reasons they were banned was also because it made them more attractive to children and teenagers. That's also one of the reasons a lot of places don't allow fancy designs on cigarette packs and it forces them to show those gruesome pictures of throat cancer and stuff.
It's a bullshit justification. Adults like flavors other than plain tobacco and menthol.
If it was really about protecting children, they'd ban flavored alcohol too.
It's not just about protecting children, it's about protecting everyone.
Nicotine is wildly addictive. Full stop. It and a host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues that greatly strain the medical system, and put strains on healthcare budgets.
Since banning the product outright will likely not work, due to the aforementioned addictiveness, sensible countries have adopted a slightly different approach of making the cancer sticks as unappealing as possible, both to keep kids from starting and to help people already addicted quit.
Many places banned caffeinated booze for similar reasons.
The caffinated booze is a different hazard, it allows people who would otherwise go to sleep keep going, now with even worse judgement.
It's mostly the tobacco causing health issues, not the wonderfully addictive nicotine. But yeah, it's a good thing that flavored cigarettes are banned.
Though it seems like big tobacco found a loophole on the first day, as you can still get menthol cigarettes in EU... it's just not as strongly minted as it was prior to the ban.
I meant other chemicals in the tobacco.
https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/42/070/42070498.pdf
And that's the tip of the iceberg, there are chemical washes, pesticides, and other shit that's just as bad.
The worst is I could smoke 4 full strength hand rolled cigarettes, with all the harm of tobacco, and still be craving a single boxed cigarette because the additives and poisons they mix are missing from my bagged tobacco.
And the byproducts of combustion!
Ok, if it was about protecting everyone, they'd get rid of flavored alcohol too. Alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs on the planet.
They tried that. Famously so. So now we pay a fuck load of money trying to get people to willingly stop, and on enforcement of traffic laws.
Which is why you can still buy your cancer sticks to feed your addiction, but not flavored. Because that's a low hanging fruit. Just ban the cancer companies from flavoring their cancer sticks like candy. Make it obvious that they're selling you your slow, painful death.
Maybe you're lost in your addiction, but maybe someone else can use this to quit, and maybe a kid won't start. It's all still cheaper than the healthcare costs of tobacco.
Alcohol only negatively affects one person, not everyone around them, and in moderation has almost no negative effects.
Tell that to the hundreds of thousands dead due to drunk driving, or the many women and children who suffer domestic abuse from alcoholics.
Alcohol is one of , if not the worst drugs for society because it can cause belligerence which can lead to violence, and it lowers inhibitions and cognitive capabilities causing people to do dangerous shit and failing horrifically and harming people like drunk driving.
there is no safe level of alcohol consumption it is poison, and I say that as someone who drinks often.
Exactly, that's why vapes come in many flavours and colours
I thought that the US banned flavored vapes. If your home country has not, encourage politicians to ban vapes altogether.
Because adults like many different flavors?
And colors. And flashing lights. Just look at how psychotic adult people go over fireworks.
Except cigarettes are a state-run monopoly over there.
The main reason things are going so slowly is that they can't bring themselves to stop making so much money.
The same institution that's supposed to promote the facts about the health-risks of smoking is the one making stupid amounts of money making and selling it.
If they ever stop, it'll be because they transition to other nicotine products, are shift to exporting the product to developing countries (which they already are).
I'm still pissed China banned direct to consumer sales. I miss Fasttech.
the tabacco lobby there (state owned, makes basically the same amount of money the chinese military spends) banned flavored vapes so the citizen take cigarettes instead
Is this why some manwha/hua mc smoke?
about 40% of chinese people smoke so its definetly something where state & tabacco propaganda succeeded. About korea: i dont know, i only saw the documentary about the chinese mega company