this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2026

266 points (96.5% liked)

Not The Onion

22305 readers

848 users here now

Welcome

We're not The Onion! Not affiliated with them in any way! Not operated by them in any way! All the news here is real!

The Rules

Posts must be:

Links to news stories from...
...credible sources, with...
...their original headlines, that...
...would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”

Please also avoid duplicates.

Comments and post content must abide by the server rules for Lemmy.world and generally abstain from trollish, bigoted, ableist, or otherwise disruptive behavior that makes this community less fun for everyone.

And that’s basically it!

founded 3 years ago

MODERATORS

kescusay@lemmy.world

266

French civil servant drugged us to make us urinate on ourselves, say accusers (www.bbc.com)

submitted 3 days ago by pelespirit@sh.itjust.works to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world

65 comments fedilink hide all child comments

She felt uncomfortable telling Nègre that she wanted return to the office to use the toilet, so told him she was cold as an excuse to go back to the building. But she says he walked away, guiding them towards the banks of the River Seine, so she told him she needed to find a toilet urgently.

"He looked me right in the eye and said, 'Oh, do you need a wee?'

"I felt like a child. I thought it was really weird the way he looked at me, almost gleeful."

She says he directed her to the door of a storage cupboard under a bridge on the Seine and said: "You can do it here."

Now, Anaïs is one of nearly 250 women who believe Nègre drugged them in alleged incidents between 2009 and 2018, subjecting them to what is known as chemical submission, where drugs are used to gain control over someone.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 64 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm not downplaying what these women went through, it's just such a weird abuse.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 84 points 3 days ago (5 children)

She says Nègre told her that he knew of a public toilet nearby, but when they arrived at the location there was no toilet.

"I was really starting to suffer… pains to the point that I was white, pale, I had tears streaming down," she says.

Marie-Hélène says she had no choice but to urinate in public. She says Nègre offered to shield her with his jacket.

"I was terribly embarrassed," she says. "He didn't take his eyes off me."

Marie-Hélène says that for years she felt ashamed.

Like Anaïs, she was also contacted by police who told her she was among Nègre's alleged victims. "It was a very big shock," she adds.

Like with most rapists, it's all about power and control and humiliation.

People outside of the US love to sneer and look down on us for electing a rapist pedophile. It's the entire fucking world that is run by rapists like these.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 58 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is now 15 years since Anaïs's encounter with Nègre and seven years since she first spoke to police.

Like many of the other accusers, she is frustrated at the length of time it is taking for Nègre's case to come to court.

Meanwhile, the alleged perpetrator has continued to work in human resources, according to Fondation des Femmes, a women's rights group that is supporting about 30 of the women affected.

He still works in HR as well.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 days ago

Fucking HR? Of all places to keep him. I totally missed that.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago

Capitalism is designed to favor the cluster b people. Narcissists, psychopaths and the like. The easiest way to the top is to backstab your way up. It's only natural that they end up concentrated at the top.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, individual offenders aren’t the problem it’s the systems of power that let them offend like this that are the problem.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The systems of power are the societal problem but the individual offenders are guilty as hell and very much also the problem

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

Sure, but so long as the power exists new offenders will bubble up.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

Yep. And yet there's a persistent belief that feminism has gone too far in favor of women's rights. It hasn't nearly gone far enough.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, no.

Police abuse INCIDENTS happen all over the world, yes, but the US police forces are the only ones (in Democratic countries anyways) where abuse isnjist standard operating procedure.

Other countries too may have incidents with rape and abuse and abuse of minors, but again, the US seems to have made all that a past time hobby of sorts. I recall a sub reddit specifically for posts about Republican government employees at all levels being child rapists. There were daily posts.

The world can't really hold a candle to the USA in that matter

Also not in school shootings, come to think of it

Or just shootings in general

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

I'm not talking about school shootings or police forces.

There are many rapists in positions of power around the world. Rape is about power. And people who seek positions of power often abuse those positions.

We live in a world dictated by patriarchy. This is a symptom.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

People outside of the US love to sneer and look down on us for electing a rapist pedophile. It's the entire fucking world that is run by rapists like these.

Not anywhere near as much as in the USA. Nor as high up, like at the very top level of elected politicians.

There may be some fucked up inbred royalty in Europe, and the French have always been kinda rape-y, but even this guy is just a civil servant and not an elected politician. There is no European or Asian Epstein level scandal that I have ever heard of. Have you? Strong accusations require strong evidence. Until that it’s just conspiracy theory.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

but even this guy is just a civil servant

He's a civil servant. Enough said.

Also going to completely ignore that Prince Andrew exists and still hasn't seen the inside of a jail cell for rape?

and the French have always been kinda rape-y

Oh yeah, no big deal. The French are always rapists, what the fuck? THIS IS A BIG DEAL ACROSS THE BOARD. Period.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

He's a civil servant. Enough said.

Have you met a civil servant? Does it look like they run the world? And he also wasn’t elected.

completely ignore that Prince Andrew exists and still hasn't seen the inside of a jail cell for rape?

Uhm… can you at least try to read the comment you reply to? I specifically mentioned fucked up royalty in Europe.

And they still aren’t elected. Nor are they politicians. Nor do they actually run a country.

Also, please calm the fuck down. I’m disagreeing with your conspiracy theory. I’m not attacking you personally.

—-

Edit to your edit: I never said it wasn’t a big deal because it seems to happen more often in France. You’re just trying to build a straw man here.

Period.

Yeah that’s not how that works. Like I said: strong accusations need strong evidence. This is not evidence at all.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

He's still in an HR role. He's been preying on women for decades. This doesn't happen unless the culture is permissive of it.

There may be some fucked up inbred royalty in Europe, and the French have always been kinda rape-y, but even this guy is just a civil servant and not an elected politician. There is no European or Asian Epstein level scandal that I have ever heard of. Have you? Strong accusations require strong evidence. Until that it’s just conspiracy theory.

The entirety of this paragraph is dismissive. You clearly haven't lived in the world as a woman to be perfectly honest.

Civil servants literally work for the government. To say that this guy was allowed to operate like this for decades but it's not a reflection of the government or the country is wild.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This doesn't happen unless the culture is permissive of it.

More general statements that don’t mean anything, still not even weak evidence for your strong accusation.

The entirety of this paragraph is dismissive. You clearly haven't lived in the world as a woman to be perfectly honest.

Aaaand more logical fallacies. You clearly haven’t got any evidence for whatever claim you’re making, to be perfectly honest.

Civil servants literally work for the government.

Still not a politician. Still not elected. You elected the Epstein class into power. That hasn’t happened in the rest of the world. Period (to quote you).

say that this guy was allowed to operate like this for decades but it's not a reflection of the government or the country is wild.

No. Tripling down on a statement and attacking someone who disagrees with you over some conspiracy theory that you can’t back up for the life of you is what’s wild.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That hasn’t happened in the rest of the world.

The Epstein class doesn't exist only in the US.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Where is the European Epstein scandal then? The Asian? The Australian?

You elected a fascist sex offender into your most important office. Don’t drag the rest of the world into this just because having elected him —twice even— makes you feel bad. Or tell me, who is the European or Asian Trump?

Yes, sexual assault happens everywhere, but no, there is no evidence that the rest of the world is ruled by sex offenders as well.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

-Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

-Sarah Ferguson

-Ehud Barak

-Miroslav Lajcak

Just to name a few that were in the Epstein files and are not from the US. And that's just a handful of government officials.

They were all protected as well. There were hundreds to thousands of people involved in the coverup and are still working to protect these powerful people.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

just a handful of government officials.

Indeed it is. And that is entirely my point. Whereas it’s your top level officials all you’ve got is a few elected officials and a non-elected royal inbred like I already mentioned.

A handful people are nowhere near proof of a conspiracy of:

hundreds to thousands of people involved in the coverup

… or that sexual predators have somehow worked their way to the top levels of the government in the entire world.

Give yourself and the rest of the world a break America: you elected this guy and his gang of cronies. They are by far the worst government in the western world by every other metric available. Until you provide evidence to the contrary, let’s just assume they are also the worst by this one.

Conspiracy theories about “the rest of the world is just as bad” are just helping to diminish how horrible they are, just like the “it’s both sides” tactic that MAGA uses to normalize their behaviour.

Not only that, but creating conspiracy theories about sexual assault and diminishes the inhumanity that these crimes are and diminishes the horrors that actual victims have gone through.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

no evidence that the rest of the world is ruled by sex offenders as well.

You are delusional if you think there are no other world leaders that have sexually assaulted or raped others.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

You are delusional

Sure.. you’re peddling conspiracy theories and I’m the delusional one…

But no, I don’t think there are no other world leaders that have sexually assaulted or raped others. Nor have I claimed that. Another straw man.

But again, there is no proof that it’s a worldwide problem anywhere nearly as much as in the USA.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The Asian Trump is in a prison cell in The Hague. Hopefully they manage to convict him before USA Trump finishes his rugpull of the ICC.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you’re talking about Duterte, he is a sick fuck, but the charges of the ICC are murder and attempted murder.

There are no charges of sexual assault, trafficking or any of the other things Trump or the current US administration has proven to be guilty of.

This discussion isn’t about evil governments in general, but specifically sex crimes against women.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has confessed to sexually abusing a maid while he was a teenager, according to a report.

In a speech on December 29, Duterte said that he had confessed to a priest going into a maid’s room while she slept and placing his fingers on her genitals, the BBC reported.

The remarks were not unusual for Duterte, who has frequently come under fire for making statements that demean or encourage violence against women. Last June and July, women’s rights activists gathered in Manila to protest Duterte’s treatment of women, including his remarks that communist rebels should be “shot in the vagina.”

You're wrong again.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe I’m kinda wrong about this one, although I correctly stated that it was not part of his indictment.

But you say:

wrong again

How was I wrong before? What proof have you brought to be able to claim this?

Please refrain from conspiracy theories and actuality prove something for a change. This quadrupling down without a shred of evidence is becoming awkward.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This quadrupling down without a shred of evidence is becoming awkward.

Only for you :)

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No u!

Really? Are we in a fucking schoolyard here?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're doing the equivalent of stomping your feet and putting your fingers in your ears and yelling "LA LA LA LA" to ignore the very real truths that men in power abuse it.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The very real and actual truths for which you have absolutely not provide even the slightest sliver of evidence…

Your government sucks. And the rest of the world doesn’t even come close. Deal with it and don’t use sexual abuse accusations as a way to make yourself feel less bad about it.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Deal with it and don’t use sexual abuse accusations as a way to make yourself feel less bad about it.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding why I made that comment. It wasn't to relieve personal guilt.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago

I understand perfectly why you made that comment. It’s like the MAGAts claiming “iT’s BoTh SiDEs!!!”.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I know that there's a fetish for this without necessarily the drugging aspect. Unfortunately wherever there's a kink there's someone who likes forcing people into it

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I think it was the plot of a long-buried Pepe Le Pew episode?