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[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 169 points 11 months ago (4 children)

"But can Linux install things via a single .exe file? HAHAH EAT IT NERD!"

- 10'ish years ago past me, before discovering the magical wonders of the package manager

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I found since people are used to app stores, I've had a much easier time convincing people to try out Linux. My mom even said that she always wished her windows PC had a proper app store.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

But Windows does have an app store, and has for ages now.

[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s not that good. It’s ok (especially now that it’s been unshackled from the hell of UWP), but it’s not as good as most Linux options.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago

For someone like OPs mom it would be more than good enough is my point. She's saying she wished something existed that does indeed exist.

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's awful, and can only install UWP apps which are just plain bad

[–] Jayayess1190@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

When is the last time you've used it? Microsoft opened it up and now you can find all types of non UWP apps in it.

[–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Windows has also had a variety of freeware since before there was never an app store

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Of course, and much of it is on the app store now (which I rarely use myself), but for someone like OPs mom who just wants an easy app store, well there is one.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think it's still important to explain the key difference between an "app store" and a package repository: the latter isn't a "store" because everything is free.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

True but it helps get the concept across so much.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 39 points 11 months ago (4 children)

With app images it's easier than installing. Although the chmod step will deter the typical windows user

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

With file managers, for example in thunar, you can select Properties -> Permissions -> Allow this file to run as a program

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

also for non-KDE, non-Gnome systems, there’s appimaged – requires a little more setup, but handles the set executable, automates the AppImage integration (.desktop files and menus), keeps a watch on specific folders for new AppImages, and provides a way to check for updates

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

I'm saving this. I don't use any appimages (except a cracked Minecraft bedrock launcher but we dont talk about that one), but I'm still going to save this.

[–] ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

I installed Linux a few weeks ago and it was on Tuesday I wanted to add some programs I had installed (it was mGBA and melonDS) to my steam launcher, I went through the hassle of making a . desktop file for both of them (I was dumb and used a Ubuntu based distro, so it installed as a snap, which sucks hard on a hdd) and then it wouldn't launch, I searched up again (I was using chatGPT for all of this, I asked it a lot how to do stuff, it's like this was it's purpose beacuse it always worked first try), did the chmod x+ command and then I was done

Just to see it not launch :/

[–] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What chmod step?

When I clicked on new app image, the OS told me, that program /name of app/ will be launched, I clicked "Continue" and it runs! No meddling with "chmod" or anything like that.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

Same, I love AppImages for that. I just wish they also had way to contain configurations instead of putting it on the system. That would make it even more portable.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How do you actually install an AppImage? I figured out how to use them, but not how to install them.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

You don't install them. You just give them the permission to run and then run them.

[–] woobie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

There is no install needed, you can just edit permissions and make the file executable and then when you open it or click it the app runs.

What won't be created by default is an application menu to run it from whatever desktop environment you use. You can create those if you wish. You can create a launcher in the menu manually, or you can use a tool called AppImageLauncher to create these for you.

There's a pretty good explanation here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1311600/add-an-appimage-application-to-the-top-menu-bar

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Not to mention Flatpaks.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I still am intimidated by the terminal as I've only had slight experience with CMD

[–] bellsDoSing@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, if all you've ever experienced in regards to terminals is windows CMD, then you really haven't seen much. I mean that possitively. Actually, it will give you a far worse impression on what using a Linux / Unix terminal can be like (speaking as someone who spent what feel's like years in terminals, of which the least amount in windows CMD).

I suggest to simply play around with a Linux terminal (e.g. install VirtualBox,.then use it to install e.g. Ubuntu, then follow some simple random "Linux terminal beginner tutorial" you can find online).

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

The Windows Terminal is absolute Garbage. I tried to use it for some very simple stuff and it was such a trash experience. It just feels wrong.

[–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't worry about the terminal until or unless you have something to do that needs it, then follow a guide

Incidentally if a guide tells you to run a program in terminal, you can check what that program is supposed to do

  • man command (eg. man mount) gives you the manual, if it has a manual
  • command -h or --help gives you the command's help page - pipe it through "less" if it's more than a single screen eg: ls -h | less