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[Discussion] Theo and Harris on F.P.Journe - customers "even went so far to liquidating some and all their F.P. Journe" (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by Axiom65@alien.top to c/watches@style.land
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Some more info from the latest Theo and Harris video. Christian comments customers not only got up and left but some dumped their investment in the watches. Christian also says he's received "risky pictures and videos" of Journe before, and apparently gets too drunk and "fun". He also aludes to racist comments imo by saying "his age and culture is not in necessary concert with modern times". Interesting stuff.

Still confused why nobody will say what he said. If it was racist why not expose him? They did say they didn't exactly know what was said at the dinner but feels like BS to me.Christian ends the video saying he would recommend to his friends that if you have hundreds of thousands of dollars in Journe to sell

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[–] ouij@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Rich European dude is terrible in private? I am shocked

[–] need_rolex@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Am I just getting old or is this sub just full of watch nephews? People are acting here like they've never heard of F.P. Journe's antics throughout the years. His personality and attitude are not exactly industry secret.

And by the way, Michael and Christian are just talking out of their asses. As far as I know, there's nothing sexual or racist from his latest tirade. Those are just dumb speculations. We're talking about an almost-autistic man who genuinely believes he is the next best thing to God in watchmaking, not a dirty old man who used to stack "gooks" five feet high in Korea to use them as sandbags.

F.P. Journe has been alienating collectors ever since he started his brand. Unlike most other watchmakers, he views most collectors with contempt. Many times, he has refused to sell his watches to collectors who don't properly show him their appreciation of his horological prowess.

But don't just take my word for it. Here are some "internet evidence" I've nicely collected for you since you all seem to be born yesterday:

  • "FPJ himself is a stellar watchmaker but a boer of an individual who is legendary to watch industry insiders as to conducting himself in a manner considered by most to be totally unacceptable from a business standpoint and non-customer focused (I am putting this nicely)."
  • "Maybe if FPJ is more likeable, he could sell more watches or demand higher price. If you like the person, maybe you'll like the products even more. I hear he's not a very sociable person, a horological genius nevertheless."
  • When asked by William Massena on why he started his own brand, Journe simply replied "Because I am fed up of giving caviar to swine!"
  • "Luckily, Journe has amassed a cult following of rabid collectors and fellow watchmakers who marvel over his creations. Therefore, he can take any attitude he wants. Some might call him temperamental and arrogant."
[–] CaptainPhukflaps@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Someone is terrible in private. I am shocked.

That's the correct statement, no need to phrase it any other way. A lot of people are utter shit.