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Cool. As an adult, I have lots of devices around that could horribly injure or kill me if used improperly. Are you saying I shouldn't own a table saw, ladder, or vehicle?
What if I've been prescribed medication which could kill me if I took the whole bottle? Should I not keep my medication around?
Thank goodness you're here. I guess I wasn't up to the task of managing risk and making my own decisions.
You should weigh the costs and benefits of each. If you need help, in the United States table saws cause roughly zero deaths in the US every year, by contrast guns kill roughly 45,000 people annually.
Considering there are something like 450,000,000 firearms in this country, and since many of those deaths are deliberately self-inflicted, those odds don't seem too bad. It ain't like a firearm will just go off on its own. Certainly reason to preach caution, but not fear. Guns demand training, mindfulness, and care. They're not for people who want to be coddled. You say it's dangerous. Of course it is! That's the point.
Nazis must not be the only group armed. Gun rights are minority rights. Every gun ban in this country has been used to oppress minorities, never to disarm fascists. You're talking to us as if you're the adult and we are children unaware of the risks. We are not. We are taking our lives and freedoms into our own hands, and preparing to defend them. You wanna use peaceful protest, go ahead. Nothing wrong with that. But you don't get to tell minorities not to make use of the tools legally available for self defense. We indulged you before, when fascism still feared to take over. But they've never been defeated peacefully. Now it's time for liberals to stop whining about us preparing against it. Not like y'all ever did a damn thing to prevent their rise in the first place.
Honestly you seem like a child unable to assess the risks. Sure - the odds of any individual in the US being killed with their own gun is small, but it is dramatically higher than the odds of them defending themselves against an assailant. It's just an unnecessary game of russian roulette. Owning a gun is a hazard that makes people significantly less safe than not owning one.
Nice try ignoring every point I made. Yes, the risk of being killed with your own weapon IS small. Vanishingly small. And yet you certainly are worried about it happening to a stranger online who is at a much higher risk of being murdered than you are, you average milquetoast liberal. I don't think you care about the person on the other end at all. Obviously you're content to ignore the fact that transfolk are assaulted and murdered at wildly higher rates than the average white person. I think you just hate the idea of people using guns to defend themselves.
It's not clear to me what point you are making. If you like to fondle guns, then feel free to. But the reality is that owning a gun makes someone dramatically less safe. That's just a fact.
Yeah, I can easily detect your deliberate refusal to consider the circumstances of others.
I have considered the circumstances - in every circumstance their risk of dying goes up.
Your privilege is showing.
In what way?
You absolutely have not considered different circumstances. If that was true, you'd cite those numbers instead. But no, you conflated the ones convenient to your prejudice and ignored all the ones that threatened it. Your life is safe enough, for now. Nothing of the sort exists for transfolk, and you don't care.
What circumstances are you talking about? You are being very vague. There is no sub-group who are safer owning guns than not. That is very very clear.
I cannot imagine being that deliberately obtuse.
And yet you are very very obtuse - what are you actually trying to say??
Who have I been talking about?
I have literally no idea - you are vague and all over the place. Perhaps if you just said what you mean instead of making obtuse and vague ramblings it would be easier to follow. Who have you been talking about?
What group have I repeatedly mentioned who experience much higher rates of assault and murder than the average white person? Either answer the question or fuck off.
Again with the vague and obtuse. Instead of answering the question you ramble more. I am not in the market for trying to guess what you are talking about. Either say it or don't, but if you won't then there is literally no point talking to you is there?
Transfolk. Say it or fuck off.
Well done. It wasn't that hard, was it?
For you it was. Now fuck off.
Why? The problem here is that while trans folk are at elevated risk of violence, they are also massively more at risk of harm both at their own hands and by intimate partners. Advising trans folk to own a gun harms them. Their risk of being killed goes up the same as anyone else.
Nope, you pretended not to understand in order to avoid saying the word. You don't give a shit about them. Conversation is over.
No, I have no problem talking about trans folk. I have great concern for the welfare of trans people - that is why I think it is irresponsible to suggest they should buy guns - that would harm them - something I don't want.
Bullshit. Conversation is already over.
Because you are committed to pretending not to understand the facts.
This conversation is over. As I have told you many times now.
Because you can no longer effectively pretend not to understand the facts.
This conversation is over. As I have told you many times now.
It's difficult to keep pretending you don't understand the issue, isn't it? ;)
This conversation is over. As I have told you many times now.
Because you want to continue to harm trans people.... ;)
You still talking?