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[–] lath@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Joining the IDF is mandatory for all kids at adulthood and they grow up under the boom boom iron dome umbrella.

The only butthurt ones on here are those ruled by rage and unwilling to understand the cause of things.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I proudly look down upon anyone who takes part in an ethnic cleansing. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. Plenty of Israeli’s receive exemptions.

No one ever asks if Palestine has a right to exist.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

She was a fitness instructor for two years mandatory service before the conflict and never even used a weapon in combat. Chill your hate a little, not everybody in the world who has attended mandatory military service is a bad person or deserves your hate. Spreading that much hate spreads a seed of violence which is how IDF and the Hamas ended up where they are now. Killing millions of innocent people in the blind rage that hate produces.

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

This comment is the perfect example of complicity.

You just both sided IDF and HAMAS. While ignoring the disproportionate amount of civilian killings in the conflict between them.

And armed rebelion against your colonizer is protected by international law which was created precisely to avert these type of situations. Would you also consider jewish militant groups who fought against nazis as terrorists?

You also make it sound as if as long as somone who doesn't kill children by their bare hands, they are not worthy of blame.

ANYONE who interacts with the genocidal maniacs that is IDF and does not come out calling out the inherent racism, is worthy of hatred.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

I don't want to comment on the GG / IDF issue because I know nothing about it. But

ANYONE who interacts with the genocidal maniacs that is IDF and does not come out calling out the inherent racism, is worthy of hatred.

Hating makes every problem worse and only reflects on yourself, only affects your own character and feelings. Consider people who condone unspeakable things as mentally ill and in need of therapy and/or learning empathy. Don't hate them because it makes you a worse person.

[–] lath@piefed.social 0 points 2 hours ago

And I applaud the initiative. But people are people and we all have bias towards "ours" vs "theirs".

I'm not defending Gadot. The kids growing up in Israel are conditioned since young, as in any nationalistic country. And those rebelling against their own country being on the right side of a conflict are usually the exception, not the rule.

It took a long while for the US to reach where it's at and they've done some ugly things so far. Yet even now there are "patriots" stirring the stinky pot. Can't say Israel reached the same stage, but it takes time to unlatch if one can at all.

[–] Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The punishment for dodging is a couple months. The alternative is genocide.

[–] lath@piefed.social 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sure it is, bro. And surely kids growing up in Israel all know all the ins and outs of that by heart, before the age of 12.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Pretty sure we are not talking about 12 year olds. I will concede that they are brainwashed, but let’s give them some agency here.

[–] lath@piefed.social 1 points 17 minutes ago

It was an arbitrary number.

We already know that cult brainwashing is hard to undo, even when the victim is willing. You can't expect people to wave away years of conditioning during the formative period with a snap of the hand. It's unrealistic.

Also, agency is contextual. It's circumstances which dictate what information one acts on and in which way it is perceived.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Unless they're super-Jewish

There's an exemption for the most rabidly stupid among them

[–] lath@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Well, they're the obnoxious base of the beliefs which rule the ethno-state. If they don't exempt them, it all collapses. But I think by now, they're likely thinking of ways of ridding themselves of these hindrances as they seem more trouble than they're worth as a foundation.