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[–] rodmcmuffins@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You don't have to shop on Black Friday or spend huge amounts of money on gifts. The dystopia you're thinking of is self made.

[–] throwawayreddit714@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not really. Not when it’s shoved in your face everywhere you go.

[–] Crazyhunt@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You still don’t have to do it. It doesn’t matter how much someone tries to get you to do something. If you don’t want to do it just… don’t do it

[–] Garfunkel_Bricktaint@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

No, it's all the corporations fault that I'm fat and waste all my money on worthless consumer goods

[–] LASpleen@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don’t have to spend an ever-increasing portion of your income on food, shelter, and transportation. And you don’t have to prioritize pointless work and attempt to monetize your hobbies. All the people who do shop on Black Friday will have lots of leftover cardboard boxes for the rest of us to die in.

[–] Guitar903@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Most people don’t buy food shelter and transportation on Amazon Black Friday

[–] GABAgoomba123@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ever notice how every dystopian story has all of society doing dystopian shit, but there’s always a Bernard Marx or a Guy Montag or a Winston Smith or a Neo that are the only ones who realize or do anything about it? But the fact that they don’t actively participate doesn’t make it any less of a dystopia

[–] rodmcmuffins@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People lacking the self control to avoid overspending on things they don't need isn't dystopia.

[–] Lonelan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, billions of chinese/indians laboring to keep the quality of life up for a hundred million americans seems like great suffering to me

[–] Fedacking@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you got a way for americans to give large amounts of money to chinese and indian people without that being exchanged for good and services I'm all ears. For now, their quality of life is significantly improved compared to doing subsistence farming.

[–] Lonelan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

yeah I don't even know how you'd start to gather data on the QOL of subsistence farming vs kids working 12 hour days sewing stuffed animals and shoes

but even if your assertion were true, a small QOL bump for a group of people an order of magnitude larger than another group with a huge QOL bump is like the basis for any dystopian story of the last 30+ years