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[–] MikeTysonChicken@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think your point about Campbell is a bad one. Of course, Ben Johnson is excellent. Who hired him? Campbell. He moved on from and hired Ben Johnson after keeping him on staff after Patricia was fired.

An absolutely critical part of being a HC is hiring staff. Can’t take that away from Campbell. Johnson deserves credit for the offense and that’s it. We have no idea what he’ll do as a head coach. Campbell has done a great job with Detroit and deserves the credit I think you’re withholding.

[–] Anaphylactic-UFO@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Credit to Dan Campbell for hiring Ben Johnson. It’s absolutely a notch in his belt that he hired Ben Johnson.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE IS GOING TO GET A BEN JOHNSON EVERY TIME HE HIRES SOMEONE.

Credit to Dan Quinn for hiring Kyle Shannahan to be his OC for the Falcons. That does not mean he will get Kyle Shannahan 2.0 when Kyle Shannahan eventually moves on to the 49ers.

Credit to Sean McDermott for hiring Brian Daboll. That does not mean the next guy he hires is Brian Daboll 2.0.

Credit to Mike Vrabel for hiring Arthur Smith. That does not mean the next guy he hires is Arthur Smith 2.0.

Yes, hiring a great staff is a skill. However, even if you’re great at it, you probably won’t be able to sustain it. There’s not enough great coaches available to do that. All of these HCs have proven they can make the right hire, but they haven’t proven they can do it over and over and over again as their OCs get poached.

[–] MikeTysonChicken@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fuck is the point of this? He hasn’t even lost Ben Johnson yet. Plus he’s taken a losing ass culture and made it something fun. We have no idea what he will or won’t sustain over time. You’re just not giving him credit for what he’s done there no when no one has been able to do it so far

[–] Anaphylactic-UFO@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Congrats to him for doing well. Doesn’t really change my stance. There’s no reason to get so offended over this lukewarm opinion.

[–] reporter_any_many@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Dude you’re the one getting all pissy that some people are disagreeing lol

[–] MattStone1916@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It's okay bro. People here can't think more than a minute into the future much less years. I agree with you.

[–] socomeyeballs@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ben Johnson was actually hired by Matt Patricia. Thankfully MCDC decided to keep him on.

[–] MikeTysonChicken@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Right I still think it’s good he kept him on staff if he thought he was a good addition.