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Do you charge your friends for their stay? Do you charge your friends a cleaning fee, while still expecting all of that?
Obviously not?
However, I did at some point consider renting out my free room for a few months at a time. In the end I didn't have to do this as my partner moved in with me instead and we share the rent. If someone paid money to live with me in my home I would still, very much, expect them to clean after themselves. I also expect my partner to contribute to cleaning even though we split the rent.
Last time I checked Ainbnbs also didn't always charge a cleaning fee; it was up to the host to do so or not. I haven't used airbnb in years though, so it might have changed since then.
I must say I'm a bit horrified by the seeming reluctance of people in this thread to clean up after themselves. To me this is a minimum fucking standard of human decency, whether it's a public space, a friends' place, somebody else's home, a hotel room, a café, whatever. I can see how being charged a hefty cleaning fee fucks with willingness to tidy up, but these cleaning fees are so high precisely because of people who don't give a fuck and leave behind an absolute mess wherever they go. These people are the reason we cannot have nice things.
The thing is, the vast majority of Air BnB listings are not just someone looking for a temp roommate. They are investment properties, operated like hotels, without the amenities of hotels, but with all the non-personal service of hotels.
When I stay at a hotel, I don't have to clean the room, strip the sheets, and do laundry. Housekeeping does all of that.
The same applies to Air BnBs now, and the hosts have nobody to blame but themselves.
And it's correct, hosts don't have to charge a cleaning fee. Most do, and come with a chorebook that if you don't do them, they charge you even more. On top of the 3x what it would cost to stay in a hotel.
So yeah, if you're charging $300 as a cleaning fee, I'll be damned if I'm cleaning the unit myself.
Clearly then we are talking about different things. I am talking based on principle and the experiences of the few people I know who have rented out space in their homes on airbnb; I have long stopped paying attention to the different ways in which the platform is enshittifying. If it's a discussion about airbnb in particular I think the only acceptable thing at this point is to not use it.
Probably. I'm talking about the actual, current landscape of AirBnB, not "What I envision it should be".
There's onsie-twosie listings like what used to be there, of course. The vast majority, however, are not. They are just investment properties. Running essentially a hotel, without the regulations covering hotels.
Agreed. I do feel for the people who are still trying to use it as a "i'm out for the month, let me rent my space out" or "I have a spare bedroom", and hope something crops up like a housing coop or something.