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I mean... how do you know? Look at the other trades for All Star talent that have happened. Each involves multiple picks AND good young pieces. Wolves decided to not give good young pieces so we gave more picks.
Beasley, Vando, Bolmaro, and Kessler were all included in that trade. Bolmaro was a bust, but Beasley/Vando were traded for another pick, and Kessler looks really good. That trade also included Pat Bev, who Utah flipped for another young player in THT. So Minnesota gave up 4 FRP + a swap, plus guys who were traded for another FRP, plus a good young player in Kessler, plus a piece that got flipped for another young player in THT.
That's the kind of haul I expect for a consensus top 10 kind of player, not a mere All Star talent. I don't think Utah was getting comparable offers from any other team. I like Tim Connelly (I had several in-person conversations with him over the years in Denver and he's a good dude) and I understand his general team-building philosophy, but I don't think any other team was offering even 2 FRP+swap+young guys for Gobert, so it's an overpay. It might still end up being a championship move, but even if so, it's a move they could have probably had a couple more picks left over after, which would be valuable pieces for shoring up depth at the deadline or next offseason.
Saying Beasley/Vando getting traded for another pick is disingenuous. Beasley/Vando/Minnesota Mike/NAW/2 2nds was flipped into a 1 first round pick, and eating the Westbrook contract.
Also THT isn't some prize either, he is a tank commander with negative vorp.