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Where would you rank current Jokic among All-Time Centers? (alien.top)
submitted 9 months ago by ExpiredCheeseIt@alien.top to c/nba@nba.space
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I don’t think it can even be argued against that Jokic is one of the greatest centers to ever play the game. The man already has 2 MVPs, a Finals MVP, and a championship at 28 years of age. As long as he doesn’t face any injuries, his play style isn’t exactly one that will quickly deteriorate as he grows older. But where do you think he already ranks among All-Time centers? What does he have to accomplish to be considered at the level of players like Hakeem?

(please don’t misinterpret that as me saying Jokic has already surpassed Olajuwon, I just thought it was a fun benchmark to use)

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[–] faradrin@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Shaq-Wilt-Russell-Malone and then Jokic.i think Jokic can surpass Malone.

Jokic may not be better (or the best Center). However i think Jokic is better overall basketball player than them all of the above.

[–] Suspicious-Summer-79@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dis you forget Hakeem or is there a reason why Malone and Jokic are above him?

[–] EmbarrassedOkra469@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He forgot Kareem also

[–] 76ersWillKillMe@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Shaq's defensive dominance makes him a better overall basketball player than jokic.

For jokic to crack the top 5, imo, he needs to just keep stacking titles/MVPs. I know this sub slobs all over his advanced stats but his defense is ok at best, and when you're comparing him to all time great centers, most of those guys were elite defensively AND offensively.

Jokic is just so damn unique with his ball handlign/passing/range that its hard to know where to place him.

does his overall offensive prowess offset his defensive shortcomings when compared to the all time greats? That's the real debate and why its such a fun one, because there's never been a center like that before.

[–] tridentboy3@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He may be the better overall offensive basketball player but he isn't a better overall player than any of Shaq, Wilt, Bill, Robinson, Hakeem, Ewing, Kareem. Defense is a major factor here. The question is whether Jokic superior offense makes up for his lack of defense and against some guys it does (he's better than Ewing) and against some it doesn't.