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A mother and her 14-year-old daughter are advocating for better protections for victims after AI-generated nude images of the teen and other female classmates were circulated at a high school in New Jersey.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the country, officials are investigating an incident involving a teenage boy who allegedly used artificial intelligence to create and distribute similar images of other students – also teen girls - that attend a high school in suburban Seattle, Washington.

The disturbing cases have put a spotlight yet again on explicit AI-generated material that overwhelmingly harms women and children and is booming online at an unprecedented rate. According to an analysis by independent researcher Genevieve Oh that was shared with The Associated Press, more than 143,000 new deepfake videos were posted online this year, which surpasses every other year combined.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (19 children)

Maybe it is just me, but its why I think this is a bigger issue than just Hollywood.

The rights to famous people's "images" are bought and sold all the time.

I would argue that the entire concept should be made illegal. Others can only use your image with your explicit permission and your image cannot be "owned" by anyone but yourself.

The fact that making a law like this isn't a priority means this will get worse because we already have a society and laws that don't respect our rights to control of our own image.

A law like this would also remove all the questions about youth and sex and instead make it a case of misuse of someone else's image. In this case it could even be considered defamation for altering the image to make it seem like it was real. They defamed her by making it seem like she took nude photos of herself to spread around.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That sounds pretty dystopian to me. Wouldn't that make filming in public basically illegal?

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In Germany it is illegal to make photos or videos of people who are identifieable (faces are seen or closeups) without asking for permission first. With exception of public events, as long as you do not focus on individuals. It doesn't feel dystopian at all, to be honest. I'd rather have it that way than ending up on someone's stupid vlog or whatever.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait you thought this was a problem for Hollywood?

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It is for actors, since you would be handing over the right to your likeness to studios for AI to reproduce for eternity.

It was one of the main issues for the SAG-AFTRA strike.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well at least they're getting paid for it. But someone could copy your likeness for free

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

They could be impersonating me as we speak!

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Or their identity?

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The tools used to make these images can largely be ignored, as can the vast majority of what AI creates of people. Fake nudes and photos have been possible for a long time now. The biggest way we deal with them is to go after large distributors of that content.

When it comes to younger people, the penalty should be pretty heavy for doing this. But it’s the same as distributing real images of people. Photos that you don’t own. I don’t see how this is any different or how we treat it any differently than that.

I agree with your defamation point. People in general and even young people should be able to go after bullies or these image distributors for damages.

I think this is a giant mess that is going to upturn a lot of what we think about society but the answer isn’t to ban the tools or to make it illegal to use the tools however you want. The solution is the same as the ones we’ve created, just with more sensitivity.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Many years ago I mentioned this on reddit. Complaining how photographers can just take pictures of you or your property and do what they want with it. Of course the group mind attacked me.

Problem just seems to get worse by the year.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's because your proposal would make photography de facto illegal, because getting the rights to everyone and everything that appears in a photograph would be virtually impossible. Hell, most other kinds of visual art would be essentially illegal as well. There would be hardly anything but abstract art.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit.

Taking a photo of yourself or your family at a public landmark? Legal.

Taking a photo of yourself or your family at a celebration? Legal.

Zooming in on the local Catholic school to get a shot of some 12 year olds and putting it on the internet? Illegal.

We need to stop pretending that photography isn't a thing and that there is zero expectation of privacy if someone can violate it. This is crap we see with police using infrared cameras to get around the need for warrants and the crap we see of people using drones to stalk. You have the right to be left the fuck alone and if someone wants to creep on teens well sorry you are out of luck.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are literally already cases where taking a photo of yourself in front of a public landmark is illegal because of copyright issues.

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