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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Zionism is the idea that Israel should exist. Criticizing Israel for committing genocide is not anti-zionist.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's also not anti-semitic (it's what the one-state solution is all about), but either way Zionism in the modern day is a more extreme ideology. It's specifically that Israel has a right to at least all of historic Palestine, and that Palestinians should either live under Apartheid or GTFO.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

how can it possibly get more extreme than "We want to do colonialism too"?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So Israel and Palestinians are supposed to have reached a fucked up compromise of sorts in the Oslo accords that's basically "We return to pre-1967 borders". "Vanilla" Zionists, so to speak, aren't opposed to this in principle, but extreme Zionists (which are running Israel right now) believe that this compromise is wrong and that Jews should colonize and genocide all of historical Palestine. So it's the difference between "we want colonialism" and "we want even more colonialism".

[–] duffman@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The term Zionism is rather unhelpful at this point. The people with unpopular views use it to hide their true stance.

It's strategic equivocation. When their viewpoint is challenged they just claim they were talking about other definitions of the word.