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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

This is the reason I don't like materialization/dematerialization transporters. Not only do they have the risk of coordinate failure like in the meme, but also:

  1. The person on the other side isn't guaranteed to be the same person when rematerialized. There's the ontological argument that when you're dematerialized, you die as your physical form is eliminated and that the person appearing on the other side is merely a clone of you, but not you.

  2. Alien interference or environmental contamination can mess up the person on rematerialization. Even small changes can alter the delicate brain chemistry we meatbags have.

  3. Being stuck in the ship's memory buffer while it verifies an open teleporter slot can't be very fun or comfortable.

This is why I only support non-dematerializing wormhole based travel where spacetime itself opens for you to enter. Less chance of mistakes.

[–] teft@startrek.website 23 points 11 months ago

Being stuck in the ship’s memory buffer

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  1. Get Tuvixed because you got a bit of alien leaf stuck to your shoe.
[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Teleporter going full Bill O'Reilly:

Fuck it, we'll Merge it live!

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

We’re gonna need a rebase -hard in here!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

How about all those many scenes where someone grabs a transported person to make a quick last minute getaway.

So the computer was programmed and targeted for just one person but at the start of the transport sequence all of a sudden two people are now part of the transport.

[–] negativenull@startrek.website 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] brezelradar@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As most of the human cells die and get replaced within a few years, humans are already beings of Theseus.

[–] MjolnirThyme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Roughly every 7 years for most of the body, major organs tend to take longer, more like 10. Your brain replaces cells at a way slower rate, you'll only Theseus your brain about 80% at best if you live a long healthy life.

[–] brezelradar@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, there is a wide spread in distribution. Some blood cells, skin epithelium and some gastric cells only live for a few days.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

That's not true at all.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 11 months ago
  1. The person on the other side isn't guaranteed to be the same person when rematerialized. There's the ontological argument that when you're dematerialized, you die as your physical form is eliminated and that the person appearing on the other side is merely a clone of you, but not you.

Ah, the ship of ~~Theseus~~ O'Brien.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The person on the other side isn’t guaranteed to be the same person when rematerialized. There’s the ontological argument that when you’re dematerialized, you die as your physical form is eliminated and that the person appearing on the other side is merely a clone of you, but not you.

That's just all a bunch of metaphysical nonsense...

[–] reminiscensdeus@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Big agree, do you think they'd let us into Starfleet if we refused to use transporters tho :(

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Didn't bones refuse to get on that plane?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That was Mr. T. Easy to confuse the two.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The first ever Star Trek tie-in novel, Spock Must Die, dealt with the implications of the first issue you brought up when Spock is accidentally duplicated by the transporter.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago

What about Thomas Riker?!

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Another reason why Stargate > Star Trek

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Except the Stargate also dematerializes you. Also there's no way of guaranteeing that the gate on the other end is open and there's apparently no safety protocols to ensure that it is so you could open the gate and then step through and just die.

Oh you know it could be underwater.

Or in space.

Or around a black hole in which case you die even if you don't enter.

Really they're actually quite dangerous technology and definitely not safe.

Also sometimes they accidentally time travel you

[–] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know what? You’re right. I still think Stargate is a superior tv show, but the transporter is safer than the stargate.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago

Also sometimes they accidentally time travel you

As I recall that was one of the problems with Carter's control interface. A proper DHD shouldn't have that issue.

At least that was the case until it happened again in the Pegasus galaxy. But Stargate never was great about canonical continuity.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Isn't that sacrilege on this instance? lol

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 3 points 11 months ago