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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

This is the reason I don't like materialization/dematerialization transporters. Not only do they have the risk of coordinate failure like in the meme, but also:

  1. The person on the other side isn't guaranteed to be the same person when rematerialized. There's the ontological argument that when you're dematerialized, you die as your physical form is eliminated and that the person appearing on the other side is merely a clone of you, but not you.

  2. Alien interference or environmental contamination can mess up the person on rematerialization. Even small changes can alter the delicate brain chemistry we meatbags have.

  3. Being stuck in the ship's memory buffer while it verifies an open teleporter slot can't be very fun or comfortable.

This is why I only support non-dematerializing wormhole based travel where spacetime itself opens for you to enter. Less chance of mistakes.

[–] teft@startrek.website 23 points 2 years ago

Being stuck in the ship’s memory buffer

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  1. Get Tuvixed because you got a bit of alien leaf stuck to your shoe.
[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Teleporter going full Bill O'Reilly:

Fuck it, we'll Merge it live!

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

We’re gonna need a rebase -hard in here!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

How about all those many scenes where someone grabs a transported person to make a quick last minute getaway.

So the computer was programmed and targeted for just one person but at the start of the transport sequence all of a sudden two people are now part of the transport.

[–] negativenull@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Transporter of Theseus

[–] brezelradar@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As most of the human cells die and get replaced within a few years, humans are already beings of Theseus.

[–] MjolnirThyme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Roughly every 7 years for most of the body, major organs tend to take longer, more like 10. Your brain replaces cells at a way slower rate, you'll only Theseus your brain about 80% at best if you live a long healthy life.

[–] brezelradar@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, there is a wide spread in distribution. Some blood cells, skin epithelium and some gastric cells only live for a few days.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

That's not true at all.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago
  1. The person on the other side isn't guaranteed to be the same person when rematerialized. There's the ontological argument that when you're dematerialized, you die as your physical form is eliminated and that the person appearing on the other side is merely a clone of you, but not you.

Ah, the ship of ~~Theseus~~ O'Brien.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The person on the other side isn’t guaranteed to be the same person when rematerialized. There’s the ontological argument that when you’re dematerialized, you die as your physical form is eliminated and that the person appearing on the other side is merely a clone of you, but not you.

That's just all a bunch of metaphysical nonsense...

[–] reminiscensdeus@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Big agree, do you think they'd let us into Starfleet if we refused to use transporters tho :(

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Didn't bones refuse to get on that plane?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That was Mr. T. Easy to confuse the two.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The first ever Star Trek tie-in novel, Spock Must Die, dealt with the implications of the first issue you brought up when Spock is accidentally duplicated by the transporter.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

What about Thomas Riker?!

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Another reason why Stargate > Star Trek

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Except the Stargate also dematerializes you. Also there's no way of guaranteeing that the gate on the other end is open and there's apparently no safety protocols to ensure that it is so you could open the gate and then step through and just die.

Oh you know it could be underwater.

Or in space.

Or around a black hole in which case you die even if you don't enter.

Really they're actually quite dangerous technology and definitely not safe.

Also sometimes they accidentally time travel you

[–] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You know what? You’re right. I still think Stargate is a superior tv show, but the transporter is safer than the stargate.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago

Also sometimes they accidentally time travel you

As I recall that was one of the problems with Carter's control interface. A proper DHD shouldn't have that issue.

At least that was the case until it happened again in the Pegasus galaxy. But Stargate never was great about canonical continuity.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Isn't that sacrilege on this instance? lol

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 3 points 2 years ago
[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 years ago

To be fair, this is the kind of bomb I’d totally expect O’Brien to say jokingly

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I have one of those mugs. Not in that color. It is a HotJo travel mug. It's the best mug I've ever owned. I'm on my second because I accidentally dropped the first I had for about 10 years. Sadly, they don't make them in black anymore and the ones I've seen on eBay that don't have a shitty logo on them have really expensive shipping, so I've made do with a white one. I didn't even realize they used them on DS9 until I was doing a rewatch one day.

[–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

These memes are getting more funny man, this is great

[–] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Repeat after me... Transporter "malfunction".

[–] trabpukcip@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thomas Riker would like a word

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Though that wasn't established to be O'Brien, for the initial accident, I think.

Great username, by the way.