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The graying of the American workforce continues: Baby boomers are working longer and earning more than their predecessors did in what Americans typically think of as retirement years, new research finds.

Almost 20% of Americans ages 65 and older were employed this year, according to a new report from Pew Research Center. That’s nearly double the share of those who were working 35 years ago. In total, there are around 11 million Americans 65 or older who are working today, comprising 7% of all wages and salaries paid by U.S. employers. In 1987, they made up 2%.

And not only are more Americans at or above the traditional retirement age of 65 working, but they are also earning substantially more compared with what older workers earned in the 1980s. Now, the typical older worker earns $22 per hour, compared with $13 per hour then. Their wage growth—some of which can be attributed to their working longer hours than older Americans did in the past—has outpaced that of workers ages 25 to 64 over the same time period, according to Pew’s research, which is based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey and the Federal Reserve’s 2022 Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The interesting thing is when you think about how social security is supposed to work.

The younger generations need to work and earn a decent wage to subsidize the older generations retirement.

The longer the older generations stay in the work force, the less openings there are for the younger generations to contribute to social security.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] the_q@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

AI will only take jobs that pay well while we humans are all working in factories and McDonald's.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Robots powered by AI will be making burgers and assembling on the factory floor.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We've had the tech to replace these jobs with bots for years and we haven't. But artists were replaced overnight.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know plenty of employed artists.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh? That means that every artist is employed and AI hasn't impacted them at all? Weird.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kind of. But working longer also means that person costs less in social security, and the plan was designed as a pyramid scheme. But we can't grow in population forever. So if this is the glut of old people, they need to work longer. That's why one of the "fixes" to any system like that is increasing the retirement age. Also the economy isn't a zero sum problem where I can take your job, really. It's more like a living system. Jobs get created and lost, it grows from the bottom up.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

That's a good point.

Somethings I didn't realize I don't know of till now. When does one withdraw money from social security? Like do they have to request it from the government? A government worker might have a retirement age but for most Americans, it's more of a guide. I know plenty of people that are in their 70s and they never plan to retire. If they continue to get paid on w-2 and report earnings to the IRS, does that mean they are ineligible to receive social security benefits?

I suppose if they are not able to collect social security money, and they continue to pay into it but they retire later then you are 100% correct and it's not as big of a problem for the younger generations as I thought.

Although I would say that the job market is in fact a competition. No matter if you are someone with seniority and experience, someone with little experience willing to work for less, or simply an automaton.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The younger generations need to work and earn a decent wage to subsidize the older generations retirement

That’s not how RRSP works.