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Data poisoning: how artists are sabotaging AI to take revenge on image generators::As AI developers indiscriminately suck up online content to train their models, artists are seeking ways to fight back.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"Just don't make a living with your art if you aren't okay with AI venture capitalists using it to train their plagiarism machines without getting permission from you or compensating you in any way!"

If y'all hate artists so much then only interact with AI content and see how much you enjoy it. 🤷‍♂️

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It has literally nothing to do with plagiarism.

Every artist has looked at other art for inspiration. It's the most common thing in the world. Literally what you do in art school.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not an artist any more than a xerox machine is. It hasn't gone to art school. It doesn't have thoughts, ideas, or the ability to create. It can only take and reuse what has already been created.

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

The ideas are what the prompts and fine tuning is for. If you think it's literally copying an existing piece of art you just lack understanding because that's not how it works at all.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

using it to train their plagiarism machines

That's simply not how AI works, if you look inside the models after training, you will not see a shred of the original training data. Just a bunch of numbers and weights.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

| Just a bunch of numbers and weights

I agree with your sentiment, but it's not just that the data is encoded as a model, but it's extremely lossy. Compression, encoding, digital photography, etc is just turning pictures into different numbers to be processed by some math machine. It's the fact that a huge amount of information is actually lost during training, intentionally, that makes a huge difference. If it was just compression, it would be a gaming changing piece of tech for other reasons. YouTube would be using it today, but it is not good at keeping the original data from the training.

Rant not really for you, but in case someone else nitpicks in the future :)

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the individual images are so unimportant then it won't be a problem to only train it on images you have the rights to.

[–] Astarii_Tyler@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They do have the rights because this falls under fair use, It doesn't matter if a picture is copyrighted as long as the outcome is transformative.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

I'm sure you know something the Valve lawyers don't.