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[–] duffman@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pedestrian scramble is probably more appropriate than banning right on red, and is proven to greatly reduce accidents. No need to have cars sitting idling longer than needed and adding to congestion. Ive also worked in a downtown area where pedestrian traffic could get so heavy cars couldn't turn right on green.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] duffman@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dedicated cycle for pedestrians, all way crossing so they can cross diagonally too. It separates cars and pedestrians completely.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

How can you do that without banning right on red? The problem is cars never stop, regardless of walk signals.

I’ve seen that in a few places, and it works where

  1. You ban right on red (one of the places I’ve seen it work is in Cambridge, MA, which bans right on red at many major intersections and is considering it city-wide)
  2. Sufficient number of pedestrians to make cars stop. You just don’t be the first person to step off the curb, and apparently only go out at busy times
[–] duffman@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The problem is cars never stop

I believe you that you experience this but it's simply not the case nation wide. I grew up without a car and walked/bussed for my entire 20s. Never had an issue, though I do make sure Imnsituationally aware no matter who has the right away.

[–] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's a famous intersection in Tokyo that does shows this. I wouldn't be surprised you haven't seen this in some form or another.

[–] catbum@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I've been there! Shibuya Crossing. It was pretty cool to saunter across with hundreds of other people under the glow of the giant screens. We probably went back and forth three times, hehe. You can see the Hachikō (Akita famous for loyalty to his late owner) statue as well!

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Some college campuses in the US do it, too. Ball State in Muncie, IN, for instance.