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I strongly suspect Discovery was written and acted by people who have never seen actual shit or suffered trauma.
If they had, perhaps they would realise that people who've been through a lot are often the (seemingly) calmest or least emotional person in the room when shit hits the fan. It isn't their first rodeo. Or they're bitter and angry arseholes. Basically Jean Luc Picard or Liam Shaw are far more realistic portrayals of people who have gone through shit.
ADHD helps.
"I have experienced this moment 44 times in my head."
"Oh this argument? I was up late three nights in a row running through every possible iteration."
"Dude! Why were you so calm last night? That was a huge fire and you just sort of calmly grabbed your drink and bag and walked out the door. I saw it!
"I have experienced that moment more times than you can possibly imagine."
Written by, sure. But I distinctly remember that the characters cried regularly in that show after trauma.
That is what annoys me the most with disco trek.
These people are supposed to be trained professionals, serving in a military hierarchy and should, before they even graduate, be accustomed to the proper decorum and on duty-appropriate behavior for an officer.
If they are constantly involved in personal drama and unrelated problems it just feels like watching a therapy session in space. It’s probably exacerbated by the modern season length of a dozen episodes at best, but in the older trek they struck a much more palatable balance of personal issue / character episodes and more plot centric stories.
I think it's no surprise that each Trek, through its own lens, shows us some vision of a possible future. ST:D just showed us a future where living life means dealing with the whole mind and not treating it like a taboo. Considering all the recent buzz about not neglecting mental health, I think ST:D was really relevant in its time for exploring what could be different in a better future. It's not a documentary, it's a vision.
Doesn't help your case that you keep (almost) calling the show STD, though 😛
Especially because it's not a naming convention used for any other show: we don't call Voyager ST:V, or Prodigy ST:P. The logical abbreviation is either DIS or DSC
I keep rooting for DISCO. One, because it's on their exercise uniform, and two, because disco's not dead, baby!
I call it DSC because it fits the three letter patter and I think it looks nicer in print than DIS, but if I didn't I'd definitely call it Disco.
Disco is NOT dead! Disco is LIFE!
I haven't seen a Mystery Men reference in a long time.
TNG had the ship's therapist literally sitting next to the captain.
Which apparently did wonders keeping the bridge crew emotionally stable in comparison
I'll be honest, the constant crying and sharing of emotions kinda takes me out of the action. It feels like some of the hyper-emotional scenes are in the wrong place at the wrong time and in the wrong measure. If these scenes were toned down from hyper-emotional to emotional and put in more appropriate places in their episodes, DSC would be a lot better for it.
I don't want to sound like I'm hating on DSC. I think the show has some good bones and interesting concepts, but it's a bit rough like a lot of series are in places (TNG s1...I'm looking at you). Really, if they had true 22-24 episode seasons and just the one series, we'd have LD and SNW-esque stories for DSC, and it wouldn't feel like the red-headed step child series.
At least S1-3 had Michelle Yeoh for when you needed some asses to be kicked.
I'm on S4 now and honestly struggling to finish it. There's nobody there I like. Everyone is just so fucking weepy all the time.
I just finished watching Succession (which I highly recommend), and I think you see somebody cry like three times across the whole show. When it happens it means something. In Discovery it's like 3 times per episode. It's exhausting. I don't know who it's even written for. I can only imagine this is what 60 year old studio executives think gen Z wants to watch.
Can we just take this to its natural conclusion and have the entitled hippy arts majors come up with their interpretation of ww1 trench warfare? I took a lot of theater in school for fun (not allowed to double major) and saw all kinds of dumb takes but nothing on this level, I have no idea what bubble they're finding these writers in.
The lead writer/producer for Discovery is also the same writer/producer of the last half of Voyager and parts of DS9. I swear, Paramount is the biggest reason you dislike so much of Discovery, not the actors/writers/producers.
Can't say it's good to know: the owner of the IP has an agenda to fuck up said IP.
They just cried a whole lotta times
Discovery always struck me as a sci-fi show written by the same people who wrote Gilmore Girls, General Hospital, Greys Anatomy or any other dramatic series.
It’s the over the top Drama Trek.