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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Written by, sure. But I distinctly remember that the characters cried regularly in that show after trauma.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That is what annoys me the most with disco trek.

These people are supposed to be trained professionals, serving in a military hierarchy and should, before they even graduate, be accustomed to the proper decorum and on duty-appropriate behavior for an officer.

If they are constantly involved in personal drama and unrelated problems it just feels like watching a therapy session in space. It’s probably exacerbated by the modern season length of a dozen episodes at best, but in the older trek they struck a much more palatable balance of personal issue / character episodes and more plot centric stories.

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think it's no surprise that each Trek, through its own lens, shows us some vision of a possible future. ST:D just showed us a future where living life means dealing with the whole mind and not treating it like a taboo. Considering all the recent buzz about not neglecting mental health, I think ST:D was really relevant in its time for exploring what could be different in a better future. It's not a documentary, it's a vision.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn't help your case that you keep (almost) calling the show STD, though 😛

[–] GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Especially because it's not a naming convention used for any other show: we don't call Voyager ST:V, or Prodigy ST:P. The logical abbreviation is either DIS or DSC

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I keep rooting for DISCO. One, because it's on their exercise uniform, and two, because disco's not dead, baby!

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I call it DSC because it fits the three letter patter and I think it looks nicer in print than DIS, but if I didn't I'd definitely call it Disco.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Disco is NOT dead! Disco is LIFE!

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I haven't seen a Mystery Men reference in a long time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it just feels like watching a therapy session in space.

TNG had the ship's therapist literally sitting next to the captain.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago

Which apparently did wonders keeping the bridge crew emotionally stable in comparison

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

I'll be honest, the constant crying and sharing of emotions kinda takes me out of the action. It feels like some of the hyper-emotional scenes are in the wrong place at the wrong time and in the wrong measure. If these scenes were toned down from hyper-emotional to emotional and put in more appropriate places in their episodes, DSC would be a lot better for it.

I don't want to sound like I'm hating on DSC. I think the show has some good bones and interesting concepts, but it's a bit rough like a lot of series are in places (TNG s1...I'm looking at you). Really, if they had true 22-24 episode seasons and just the one series, we'd have LD and SNW-esque stories for DSC, and it wouldn't feel like the red-headed step child series.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 10 months ago

At least S1-3 had Michelle Yeoh for when you needed some asses to be kicked.

I'm on S4 now and honestly struggling to finish it. There's nobody there I like. Everyone is just so fucking weepy all the time.

I just finished watching Succession (which I highly recommend), and I think you see somebody cry like three times across the whole show. When it happens it means something. In Discovery it's like 3 times per episode. It's exhausting. I don't know who it's even written for. I can only imagine this is what 60 year old studio executives think gen Z wants to watch.

[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Can we just take this to its natural conclusion and have the entitled hippy arts majors come up with their interpretation of ww1 trench warfare? I took a lot of theater in school for fun (not allowed to double major) and saw all kinds of dumb takes but nothing on this level, I have no idea what bubble they're finding these writers in.

[–] Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The lead writer/producer for Discovery is also the same writer/producer of the last half of Voyager and parts of DS9. I swear, Paramount is the biggest reason you dislike so much of Discovery, not the actors/writers/producers.

[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Can't say it's good to know: the owner of the IP has an agenda to fuck up said IP.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

They just cried a whole lotta times