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[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

The article is crap, but it is correct in that you don't need to use airplane mode. I would, however, advise to still use it purely to preserve battery life of your device as otherwise it will very aggressively keep scanning for networks and drain it.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

The article is crap,

It is Gizmodo after all

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yep. I do wish there was a toggle for the cellular radio by itself (rather than just mobile data). It's annoying to have to go airplane mode then turn WiFi and BT back on.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

On Android you do have that toggle

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] scytale@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There is? I know the control center button for turning on/off mobile data, but I wasn’t aware there was a way other than airplane mode to prevent it from continuously scanning for networks.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

The cell data button only disables data, but the airplane button disables the cellular radio entirely and doesn’t disable WiFi or Bluetooth. If you want WiFi and BT disabled, you need to tap them separately.

However… the airplane button remembers your last preference. If you tapped airplane and then disabled WiFi and BT, it will disable them next time you turn on airplane mode. If you last used airplane mode with WiFi and/or BT enabled, it will only disable the cell antenna.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That’s what airplane mode is. Try it out in the control center. It doesn't disable my WiFi unless I had WiFi disabled when I last turned airplane mode off. Similar with Bluetooth except turning airplane off turns my Bluetooth on even if I had it off before.

Of course, an OS update or a reboot might reset the value of the previous WiFi state. 🤷‍♂️

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Right, but the person I was replying to appears to be saying there is a toggle button that isn’t airplane mode to turn off the antenna, unless I’m misunderstanding.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps this is what they meant:

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Probably, but that’s android right? I’m not sure there is a similar control for IOS that isn’t airplane mode.

[–] VelociCatTurd@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There’s a separate cellular toggle yes.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

On iPhone the airplane toggle is the cellular toggle. It leaves all your other radios active.

It also disables GPS but only because that doesn't work anyway in a fast moving faraday cage without cell tower triangulation.

If you want to disable wifi or bluetooth, those are separate toggles... and by default they just disconnect from your current wifi network and some of your bluetooth devices (your smart watch for example, will stay connected over bluetooth). The buttons are there to use if your wifi or bluetooth aren't working properly, which can always be fixed by just disconnecting rather than disabling the radio entirely.

[–] VelociCatTurd@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Airplane mode is one button. Cellular is another button.

Just pull up your control center and you should see.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

In iOS, the cell-tower-looking button is for data, it doesn’t disable all of your cellular radios. If you hold down the button in Control Center so it pops up the larger version with descriptions, you’ll see that it says “Cellular Data.”

The Airplane Mode button disables your cellular radios but leaves WiFi and Bluetooth enabled. This is what you want for airplanes. Hence the name “Airplane Mode.”

It’s been a couple years since I had an Android phone (rest in peace, OnePlus 7T Pro 5G, you were too good for this world) but I think to accomplish the same I had to enable airplane mode and then re-enable WiFi and Bluetooth, but I could be mistaken.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

And if you turn wifi back on once, it'll tell you that it can remember and always leave Wi-Fi on if you want.

Don't even have to find the setting

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Meh - flights have USB ports now if your battery is low.

[–] Mad_Punda@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But that’s just a waste of electricity then? And battery health?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unless you're really into flying the effect is minimal

[–] Mad_Punda@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It also costs you nothing to disable it. And if everyone keeps it disabled for all their flights, it’s not minimal anymore. So I don’t really see the problem here.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Imagine the savings if all of those people just didn't fly! lol

[–] Mad_Punda@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That doesn’t change that disabling cellular makes a difference, so I don’t see your point. Just because something’s not perfect, doesn’t mean it can’t make a difference.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

It just makes such a tiny, insignificant difference that it really doesn't matter one way or the other.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

USB ports and outlets lol I haven't been concerned about preserving my phone's battery life while flying in a long time now lmao

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How old are your phones? I don't notice any "aggressive scanning" when I don't have airplane mode on. The other user is not able to switch WiFi on in airplane mode, my last two phones did that no problem and they go like 4-5 years back.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Cell towers, without mountains/buildings blocking them, reach 10+ miles and airplanes don't fly that high... so you are within range of towers while flying unless you're over the ocean.

However, connecting to a tower that far away requires running the radio at maximum transmission power which absolutely kills your battery. Also the towers reject your phone's attempt to connect because they are programmed to ignore distant connections when they know a dozen other towers are within a few miles of that tower. If you're flying over remote areas where towers will accept any connection you might occasionally get enough signal to call 911 but i likely won't be a usable data connection due to how far away you are.

Wether it shows a connection or not, your phone is still reaching out trying to connect and doing handshakes with towers on the ground.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Being inside a metal tube doesn't help reception either.