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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 61 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

0 minutes of daylight is gained from daylight savings time.

60 minutes is how much is shifted to later in the day.

[–] jdnewmil@lemmy.ca 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I completely agree with this point. But using the conventions of "business hours" to drag people out of bed earlier allows them to get off work earlier and utilize the daylight they already have more fully. But it is without a doubt a psychological shell game.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no amount of daylight I can utilize as I’m not a farmer. Where the sun is has almost no bearing on my life but forcing me to suddenly wake up an hour earlier certainly does

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Sounds like somebody needs a soma holiday

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The main problem is that the old 9 to 5 business hours puts three hours before noon and five after, which is why DST moves time later in the day.

Just change 'business hours to' 8 to 4 and call it a day. or 7:30 to 4:30 if it needs to be 8 hours plus lunch.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Logic and sense? Get out of here! Obviously what we need to do is make daylight saving time permanent year round!

/s, if that wasn’t obvious

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 0 points 8 months ago

Every time I get in an argument with someone who wants year round daylight savings time, they think it happens in the winter.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what exactly this is measuring, but the amount of daylight in a day does change throughout the year. If this is measuring the amount of daylight gained from dead winter to the shift, then it actually is increasing the amount of daylight.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"In addition to" makes it sound like it is being added.

[–] chipt4@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely in addition to dst, look at the southern states.. the blue/cyan is 50 minutes (plus 60)

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago

If you are counting the shifting of 60 minutes to the evening, then you o ly add half of the increase in actual daylight per day to the evening because that is split across noon. You don't add the whole of both to the evening.

It doesn't make sense to add those two numbers together in any context.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Useful daylight is gained. Daylight before I wake up is useless to me. Daylight in the evening after work is useful.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 5 points 8 months ago

Making the sun come up later screws with my sleep schedule and so I don't get the benefit of the later light.

Daylight when I'm tired is useless to me.