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A fringe website featured the purported names and addresses of the Fulton County grand jury that indicted Trump and 18 others for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just another reason why jury systems are stupid

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

No idea what that guys beef is, but I've served on a jury for a nasty kidnapping case.

If I'm ever on the wrong side of a court room, the last thing I want is a jury of fucking bigoted idiots deciding anything.

Though, I'm in exactly zero "minority" groups per se, so perhaps I'd be alright anyway. That's a whole other problem with justice though.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He's not really wrong. We're too biased, uneducated and ignorant to be able to accurately determine guilt. Until the populace is re-educated, it probably would b better to have panels of experts determine guilt, or only allow jurors that have at least obtained a bachelor's degree in something. I am certain such suggestions are flawed, but not as badly as the system we have now that flagrantly enabled racism and genocide.

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't need a degree to be able to make an ethical or moral judgment wtf? With money being a major roadblock for education you'd be taking the voices away from a lot of good people whose only mistake is being born too close to the poverty line. That's the exact opposite direction that anything should go in right now lol.

Who would even pick those "panel experts"? Local votes? Local government? Because that's all been pretty shit so far on most fronts and feels like different means to the same end.

I don't know what the solution is but I do know that it's not gonna be any method that inevitably excludes and ostracizes people from participating in part of our legal system based on their income because that is absolutely what it boils down to. If anything I'd say a good direction might be to take cases from small communities that are more likely to hold a bias, consolidate them all under a more unified court system, and go with video court or something so there can be a properly neutral jury that truly has no skin in the game. I'm sure even that has its own major issues that I'm overlooking but at least it doesn't separate people by financial status

You do need an education to vote on issues and to determine guilt in a lot of cases, amd before, when the populace was educated, the system was viable. Now it's not, so it isn't. It's that simple.