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Nelson Peltz, the activist investor agitating to win two Disney board seats, criticized the company’s “woke” strategy — specifically questioning Marvel’s “Black Panther” and “The Marvels,” which featured Black and women leads, respectively.

The 81-year-old Peltz, who has admitted he “never claimed” to have experience in the media business, made the comments about “The Marvels” and “Black Panther” in a recent interview with the Financial Times. “Why do I have to have a Marvel [movie] that’s all women?” Peltz asked rhetorically. “Not that I have anything against women, but why do I have to do that? Why can’t I have Marvels that are both? Why do I need an all-Black cast?”

“Black Panther” does not have an all-Black cast, nor does “The Marvels” have an all-female cast.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Why do I need another marvel movie?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I for one don't.

C'mon. lets get back real scifi. Like the OG Day the Earth Stood Still in style. More drama. more social commentary and less...pew pew and tinfoil bikinis. For anybody whose not seen it... the 1950's version is a social commentary on mutually assured destruction and is still poignantly relevant today. (Also, you know the whole-Flying Saucer-lands-on-the-lawn cliche? yup. that's this movie.)

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

Klaatu barada nikto!

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

More drama. more social commentary and less...pew pew and tinfoil bikinis.

It has always been both. Often in the same film or show or book

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There's so many series I have read recently that would make incredible space opera series perfect for streaming. It's like Hollywood is allergic to pumping out good stories with cheap production. Instead we have shit stories written by committee and approved for commercialism with blown out production that takes an entire year to complete 10 episodes instead of 30. We can't quite do cardboard sets and practical effects like the 80s but there's thousands of crews doing creative things on shoestring budgets.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I’m almost afraid they’ll try another remake of day the earth stood still after some screen writer sees it.

Keanu fucking Reeves pissed me off with that. The remake deserves the George Lucas Holiday Special Treatment™️

(Or the old TV British treatment. We can go with that.)

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I love Marvel movies. But it's kinda gone downhill since Endgame.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Hoping they use the opportunity of dropping Majors abusive ass to pivot away from Kang and get the fun of the Infinity saga back. Not holding my breath but I would love at least one really good Fantastic 4 movie that crosses over with the rest of Marvel

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

It's been hit or miss, much like the Infinity Saga. The difference is saturation. They've made too many films and shows too quickly, and the bad ones lend credence to the complaints of bigots.

When bigots complained that Heimdall the White was portrayed by Idris Elba, they were told to shut the fuck up because the movie was good and Elba was great in it. When bigots complained that Black Panther would include a lesbian relationship, the studio cut the scenes and scrapped the storyline. The Ancient One, the Mandarin, Jeri Hogarth, black Dark Elves, Zendaya as MJ, all the way up to the first gay man in Endgame, people are always going to find something to be mad about. Motherfuckers complained when Samuel L. Jackson was cast as Nick Fury, and when the comics followed suit, the collective bunching of panties could have jump-started a nuclear reactor.

The only thing that matters is whether the movies are good or not. Some have been good, others have not. That was true before Endgame, and has continued to be true.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Because the next one is going to be Deadpool and Wolverine, and it's going to be a fuckton of fun. If that doesn't float your boat, skip it. Movie theaters have doors and ticket takers and sound dampening walls. It's a whole system designed to keep you from seeing a movie unless you really want to.

It's not like the MCU is preventing other movies from being made. Marvel Studios isn't choosing between making yet another Fantastic Four movie or an arthouse film. Disney makes Disney movies. Marvel makes Marvel movies for Disney.